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Old December 6th, 2007
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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In article <fj6net$1di$1@aioe.org>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> I guess it depends on your definition of "anonymous." I don't think it's a
> particularly good idea to post all of your contact info on usenet-


I agree.

And only a moron ****tard would expect that anyone WOULD post his
personal information on the Usenet.

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Old December 6th, 2007
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In article
<d0c11c64-54d8-4514-9ae1-524632705da7@e67g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

> My email address is actually completely unadulterated.
>
> But it is protected by Forwarding, Spam Assassin and BoxTrapper Spam
> Trap before it can be delivered to one of my mailboxes. As such,
> while it does require a "Yes I am a real human" response on the first
> contact attempt, I'm eminently contactable by email.


What does that have to do with the fact that you're anonymous here on
the net, yet you call for others to expose themselves to your
satisfaction?

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Old December 6th, 2007
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On Dec 6, 6:13 am, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
> In article <fj6net$1d...@aioe.org>,
> Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
> > I guess it depends on your definition of "anonymous." I don't think it's a
> > particularly good idea to post all of your contact info on usenet-

>
> I agree.
>
> And only a moron ****tard would expect that anyone WOULD post his
> personal information on the Usenet.


Since that's precisely what the stooge "Elmo" was jumping up and down
about in his demands, he's criticizing himself and calling himself a
(cough) "...moron ****tard..."

FWIW, it seems that "Elmo" is almost as brilliant as a turtle:
afterall, how smart does a turtle have to be in order to sneak up on a
head of lettuce? :-)


-hh
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Old December 6th, 2007
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Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
> In article <fj6net$1di$1@aioe.org>,
> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
>
>> I guess it depends on your definition of "anonymous." I don't think
>> it's a particularly good idea to post all of your contact info on
>> usenet-

>
> I agree.
>
> And only a moron ****tard would expect that anyone WOULD post his
> personal information on the Usenet.


I can see why you've been called a hypocrite: it's true.


--
Mike


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Old December 7th, 2007
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In article <5rqfpdF135ut1U1@mid.individual.net>, "Tinman" <ask@for.it>
wrote:

> > And only a moron ****tard would expect that anyone WOULD post his
> > personal information on the Usenet.

>
> I can see why you've been called a hypocrite: it's true.


How so?

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In article
<ddf88863-5296-4a75-8102-682b2161a080@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com>,
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

> > And only a moron ****tard would expect that anyone WOULD post his
> > personal information on the Usenet.

>
> Since that's precisely what the stooge "Elmo" was jumping up and down
> about in his demands, he's criticizing himself and calling himself a
> (cough) "...moron ****tard..."


You mean, -hh demanding that I post my personal information is OK, but
my asking him to do so FIRST isn't?

My comment stands: if he wants others to post their personal
information, he'll have to post his first. Otherwise, he's just another
****tard.

One does wonder why he won't post his while demanding that others post
theirs......talk about hypocrite....

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Old December 7th, 2007
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At 07 Dec 2007 06:09:50 -0500 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:

> You mean, -hh demanding that I post my personal information is OK, but
> my asking him to do so FIRST isn't?



I don't recall that he ever said "post your personal information"- just
that you were "anonymous" which I took to mean fake name/e-mail. I don't
think he's suggesting anyone should pony up a home address, phone number
and blood type on usenet. He posts with his real e-mail, you don't.
That's fine. Perhaps it's just a coincidence, but as a general rule, those
who post with a real e-mail address seem to exhibit a higher level of
politeness and courtesy to others, even when in disgreement.


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Todd Allcock <eleccon...@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:
> At 07 Dec 2007 06:09:50 -0500 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
>
> > You mean, -hh demanding that I post my personal information is OK, but
> > my asking him to do so FIRST isn't?

>
> I don't recall that he ever said "post your personal information"


I didn't. Troll "Elmo" is simply flat-out lying (and its a
diversion).


> ...- just
> that you were "anonymous" which I took to mean fake name/e-mail.


Which was a minor point at best. The major point was to point out
Elmo's cowardiceness and hypocrisy of how he was hiding behind the "X-
No-Archive" option while he was trying to intimidate another poster by
stating how their comments were being archived for posterity.


> I don't think he's suggesting anyone should pony up a home address,
> phone number and blood type on usenet.


I literally said that I didn't really want his IRL information (its in
the archives). The reason why is that since it wasn't the source of
Elmo's hypocrisy, there was no real need for it. Besides, its not
like I was going to mail him a Christmas Card (even if I do brag some
by saying that it is a quite nice one this year :-).


> He posts with his real e-mail, you don't.
> That's fine. Perhaps it's just a coincidence, but as a general rule, those
> who post with a real e-mail address seem to exhibit a higher level of
> politeness and courtesy to others, even when in disgreement.


It is hardly a coincidence that the more offensive (and invariably,
the intellectually stupid) trolls hide behind false names, fake email
addresses and so forth: they do it because they believe that they are
"safe" behind their computer if no one knows who they are. They think
that they can misbehave and they believe that they can "get away with
it", so its all an attempt to avoid accountability.

They can and will have their childish fun...but it is only a transient
and short term game: over time, they'll burn their bridges and
they'll end up lonely, with no friends and no future, both online and
in real life...a dead end loser.

And this isn't just blowing smoke in "theory", I've witnessed this
firsthand. One individual in particular used to be a good friend, but
roughly ten years ago, he degraded into an utter kook, and now
whenever he comes back online, whoever is around (not me - he has made
enemies everywhere) promptly gives him an electronic kick in the nuts
and he goes away for a couple more months. Thus, the hobby he loved
is now denied to him. Even one of his former IRL buddies has since
called him the "biggest asshole in usenet history", which is pretty
strong words for folks that have been online for 20+ years. It is a
pretty depressing story to discuss, but suffice to say that I believe
that Elmo is still young enough to avoid this fate if he wises up and
pulls his head out of his ass, pronto.


-hh
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In article <fjc33h$dee$3@aioe.org>,
Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote:

> I don't recall that he ever said "post your personal information"- just
> that you were "anonymous" which I took to mean fake name/e-mail.


The phrase was "anonymous cowardly troll," meant to slam me on all sorts
of fronts--including that of anonymity.

And he did so while not posting his personal information.

He has a strange idea of how the world should work.

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Old December 17th, 2007
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4phun <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:60d657c2-d4cc-43d6-8633-
513e4928370c@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com:

> On Dec 1, 8:30 am, Ron <ron.cliff...@peoplepc.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2007 10:56:37 -0500, ned beaty <hid...@nospam.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >The iPhone just got even better!

>>
>> >http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology...ory?id=3933866

>>
>> Not new iPhones. IPhones that may come out late in 2008.
>>
>> There is no 3G iPhone you can go buy.

>
> You can view a video on YouTube of the iPhone loading faster,
> displaying faster on EDGE network than a 3G phone. Why, the hardware
> and fast memory made the difference. The iphone even now on EDGE is
> better than many crap Smartphones loaded with a carriers bloadtware
> and crippled on a faster network. That would make many non iPhone
> owners in a two year contract CRY.
>


Not even close. Using an accelerator to get to a predetermined site for e
a demo is hardly impressive.

In real life, the iPhone crawsl along in direct comparision to 3g phones.
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