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Old December 1st, 2007
Elmo P. Shagnasty
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Default New iPhones to use 3G network

In article
<0ad004cb-6bda-4aa5-baf1-db95ea14cfa9@v4g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

> > Poor battery engineering, more likely.

>
> Oddly enough, Apple is using the same Li-Ion package as the rest of
> industry. This makes this cowardly troll's "speculation" clearly
> wrong.


Sure it is, Oxford. (Yeah, we know it's you.) Or poor/slipshod
engineering overall. Let's face it: Steve Jobs's mania for batteries
that can't be taken out and replaced by the end user was an engineering
decision made by a non-engineer, made by a marketing huckster, and
forced him to come up with some bullshit about how "we don't want to do
3G because of battery life".

When you make bad decisions, you have to face their consequences.


> For posterity:


WTF is that all about?

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Default New iPhones to use 3G network

In article
<27c463c1-ef3a-4715-92a4-2768af811058@w28g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

> > You DO know your words are recorded for posterity, don't you?

>
> And saying that while using the "X-No-Archive" command to try to avoid
> having your words recorded for posterity makes you a coward.


Ummmmm.....no, not at all.

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Default New iPhones to use 3G network

In article <slrnfl3mld.n02.julian@adeed.tele.com>,
Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> wrote:

> On Sat, 01 Dec 2007 14:45:45 -0600, CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
> >
> > I decided I needed functionality, not child's toyys. It has 3G, GPS, a
> > word processor, and seamlessly syncs to my business email.
> >
> > Does the iPhone do any of that? Nope, didn't think so.

>
> You really need to go look at the specs for the iPhone.
> then do get back to us.
>
> When you do get back to us, let us know what make and
> model your phone is and also the carrier, so we can all have a
> good laugh.


Another Oxford sock puppet.

Hey, Oxford--when will you realize that you are incapable of hiding from
the world?

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Default New iPhones to use 3G network

In article <slrnfl3n0t.n02.julian@adeed.tele.com>,
Julian Macassey <julian@tele.com> aka Oxford wrote:

> Out of the box, the iPhone syncs to my business e-mail.
> With ssh, who needs a local word processor? GPS? What about
> Google maps?


Well, Oxford, when the network is down, how do you do that ssh?

Why doesn't Google Maps's new features work on the iPhone?

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Old December 1st, 2007
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In article <Xns99F98C0025361isheforreal@216.196.97.142>, CozmicDebris
<isheforreal> wrote:

> Anybody <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in
> news:021220070929502839%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com:
>
> > In article <C3770777.9BC77%CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>, Snit
> > <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >
> >> "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
> >> Xns99F97F1FBD8Aisheforreal@216.196.97.142 on 12/1/07 12:29 PM:
> >>
> >> > nospamatall <nospamatall@iol.ie> wrote in
> >> > news:fisbgf$gb2$1@aioe.org:
> >> >
> >> >> Todd Allcock wrote:
> >> >>> At 30 Nov 2007 10:56:37 -0500 ned beaty wrote:
> >> >>>> The iPhone just got even better!
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> http://www.abcnews.go.com/Technology...ory?id=3933866
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Wow! Let's see how Oxford's going to explain a 3G iPhone after
> >> >>> he's spent five months explaining how it was unnecessary (due to
> >> >>> WiFi) and would have made it too bulky and power consuming!
> >> >>
> >> >> It won't be bulky and the power consumption will be lower. That's
> >> >> the reason they didn't implement it yet.
> >> >
> >> > My 3G phone is far from bulky and has very good battery life.
> >> > Wanna try again?
> >>
> >> What phone? How big is its screen?

> >
> > And, does it run full screen video, proper web browser and a fully
> > touch-screen interface?? Nope, didn't think so. :-)

>
> I decided I needed functionality, not child's toyys. It has 3G, GPS, a
> word processor, and seamlessly syncs to my business email.
>
> Does the iPhone do any of that? Nope, didn't think so.


Anyone actually doing word processing on a mobile phone is an idiot -
the screens are simply too small and the "keyboards" too fiddly, Get a
lsptop / notebook computer instead. Having said that, I can see a point
for being able to READ files and perhaps do very minor updates, and the
iPhone has a full Safari web browser so can use any of the gorwing
number of "Office" web applications.

Email problems would depend on what you mean by "sync to", but the
iPhone can easily handle email.

I don't know anything about GPS on or off the iPhone.
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Anybody <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in news:021220071355001019%
anybody@anywhere-anytime.com:


>
> Anyone actually doing word processing on a mobile phone is an idiot -
> the screens are simply too small and the "keyboards" too fiddly,


Not if you need to make quick changes on the fly.

> Get a
> lsptop / notebook computer instead.


Got one. Takes too long to boot up and connect at times. It's also not
always attached at the hip like the phone.

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In article <Xns99F9BA5006B14isheforreal@216.196.97.142>, CozmicDebris
<isheforreal> wrote:

> Anybody <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in news:021220071355001019%
> anybody@anywhere-anytime.com:
> >
> > Anyone actually doing word processing on a mobile phone is an idiot -
> > the screens are simply too small and the "keyboards" too fiddly,

>
> Not if you need to make quick changes on the fly.


I did say basically that further on, although you still have to then
re-sync it back to your computer anyway.



> > Get a laptop / notebook computer instead.

>
> Got one. Takes too long to boot up and connect at times.


Then leave it in Sleep mode, as long as you remember to "unsleep" it
and charge it occasionally. Better yet, get the rumoured new MacBook /
sub-MacBook if it becomes a reality - it doesn't have a hard drive. It
uses Flash RAM, so should be even faster to boot up.



> It's also not always attached at the hip like the phone.


But does have a decent keyboard and screen.
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Anybody <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in
news:021220071527577612%anybody@anywhere-anytime.com:

> In article <Xns99F9BA5006B14isheforreal@216.196.97.142>, CozmicDebris
> <isheforreal> wrote:
>
>> Anybody <anybody@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote in
>> news:021220071355001019% anybody@anywhere-anytime.com:
>> >
>> > Anyone actually doing word processing on a mobile phone is an idiot
>> > - the screens are simply too small and the "keyboards" too fiddly,

>>
>> Not if you need to make quick changes on the fly.

>
> I did say basically that further on, although you still have to then
> re-sync it back to your computer anyway.


No- it goes like this. I receive an email with an attchment that needs to
be reviewed and ammended. I pull up the attachment, make the necvessary
changes and send it back out. Because the phone is tied into my corporate
mail server, the sent item appears on my computer the next time I boot up.

>
>
>
>> > Get a laptop / notebook computer instead.

>>
>> Got one. Takes too long to boot up and connect at times.

>
> Then leave it in Sleep mode, as long as you remember to "unsleep" it
> and charge it occasionally. Better yet, get the rumoured new MacBook /
> sub-MacBook if it becomes a reality - it doesn't have a hard drive. It
> uses Flash RAM, so should be even faster to boot up.


But I have no need to do so. The laptop serves its purpose as portable
office, while the phone serves as a mobile connection to the outside world
that allows me to conduct business until I find the need for my "office."

>
>
>
>> It's also not always attached at the hip like the phone.

>
> But does have a decent keyboard and screen.
>


It's called a trade-off.
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CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
> Anybody <anyb...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
> > Snit <C...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> >> "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated:

>
> >> > My 3G phone is far from bulky and has very good battery life.
> >> > Wanna try again?

>
> >> What phone? How big is its screen?

>
> > And, does it run full screen video, proper web browser and a fully
> > touch-screen interface?? Nope, didn't think so. :-)

>
> I decided I needed functionality, not child's toyys. It has 3G, GPS, a
> word processor, and seamlessly syncs to my business email.


And yet this device lacks a manufacturer's name or model number.

Amazing.


-hh
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-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote in news:b78313b5-ff97-42e1-bb68-
952dbcb5732a@y5g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:

> CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
>> Anybody <anyb...@anywhere-anytime.com> wrote:
>> > Snit <C...@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> >> "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated:

>>
>> >> > My 3G phone is far from bulky and has very good battery life.
>> >> > Wanna try again?

>>
>> >> What phone? How big is its screen?

>>
>> > And, does it run full screen video, proper web browser and a fully
>> > touch-screen interface?? Nope, didn't think so. :-)

>>
>> I decided I needed functionality, not child's toyys. It has 3G, GPS, a
>> word processor, and seamlessly syncs to my business email.

>
> And yet this device lacks a manufacturer's name or model number.
>
> Amazing.
>
>
> -hh
>


It could one of dozens, couldn't it? Why is it so important to know which
one?
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