As is typical - Oxford is WRONG

"Oxford" <linuxlovesosx@superart.com> wrote in message
news:linuxlovesosx-E4CB20.09331901122007@mpls-nnrp-03.inet.qwest.net...
> News <News@Groups.com> wrote:
>
>> > http://www.pcworld.com/businesscente..._bid_for_700_m
>> > hz_spectrum.html
>>
>>
>> Wait, didn't Oxy-moron promise SJ would put the kibosh on the Goog boys?
>
> how would anyone know?

google certainly would know who they're bidding with! (and they say they're
bidding without partners)
http://www.google.com/intl/en/press/..._20071130.html


> SJ doesn't pre-announce anything, so the press
> can only make up theories, we'll only know for sure when / if Apple or
> Google bids on the spectrum.

there's no need to make anything up, as GOOGLE says they're bidding w/out
partners.

> you need to keep in mind Google and Apple are partners,

in some things maybe, but google says they're not bidding w/ any partners.

<snip>

Oxford wrote:
> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>
>>>SJ doesn't pre-announce anything
>>
>>Oh. You mean, like the iPhone.
>>
>>The iPhone that he announced in, what--January? 2007, which wasn't
>>available until JUNE 30 of the same year?
>>
>>Please tell us AGAIN how Steve Jobs doesn't "pre-announce" anything.
>>
>>Remember, your words are recorded for posterity.
>>
>>What will you say down the road when you want to backtrack on your claim?
>
>
> the iphone wasn't pre-announced it was simply announced. big difference.


Announced, then unavailable for six months.

Available and unavailable. Big difference.

Oxford <linuxlovesosx@superart.com> wrote in
news:linuxlovesosx-6574E3.13495201122007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net:

> CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
>
>> He pre-announces everything. Pre-market hype is what Apple is all
>> about. Hype the hell out of a product before the consumer gets it in
>> their hands and realizes what a piece of crap it is- that's the Apple
>> way.
>
> he does? that would be news if so. actually he doesn't say a word
> until he is ready to announce. Then yes, for good reason the press and
> the public hypes the advent of the next great product coming into
> society.


And then ignore it once they realize it has more shortcomings than
advantages.

>
> But Apple? they remain very quite except a press release and the 20
> minute announcement.

And the 20 minutes per hour advertising.

>
> gosh, you sure don't know much about how apple works do you...

Apparently more than you do, newbie.

>
>> > so the press
>> > can only make up theories, we'll only know for sure when / if Apple
>> > or Google bids on the spectrum.
>>
>> Google is bidding, Apple won't. Bank on it.
>
> well, we don't know. Apple has deeper pockets and more ability to use
> the spectrum. Google is just another website, whereas Apple builds
> over 450 products, Google has less than 5.

Actually, we do know- you're simply too much of a fanboi to believe it.
They will not bid, as they have no interest in building a network.

>
>> > you need to keep in mind Google and Apple are partners, so it's not
>> > a case of Apple against Google... it's a case of how Google will
>> > set things up for Apple if Google decides to bid, and visa-versa.
>>
>> Google has stated that their bid is being done without the intent to
>> have a partner in the venture.
>
> cite?

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/...301511DOWJONES
DJONLINE000863_FORTUNE5.htm

" In a statement, Google said it will make its bid without a partner
more steeped in the nuances of operating a wireless network, raising
questions about how much control and accountability the Mountain View,
Calif.- based company wants to assume."

Oxford <linuxlovesosx@superart.com> wrote in news:linuxlovesosx-
40E270.13435801122007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net:

> News <News@Groups.com> wrote:
>
>> > you need to keep in mind Google and Apple are partners, so it's not a
>> > case of Apple against Google... it's a case of how Google will set
>> > things up for Apple if Google decides to bid, and visa-versa.
>>
>> Please share your info on bidder collusion with the SEC, DOJ and FCC.
>
> neither Apple nor Google hold a majority of the cell market at this time
> so the SEC, DOJ, FCC don't have any say in the matter.

And you just showed that you know nothing about spectrum bidding- we'll add
it to the long list of things you are clueless about. What you are
suggesting is bidder collusion and is against the law. Market share has
nothing to do with it, moron.


>
> you are talking if AT&T and Verizon did a tandem bid, not Apple & Google.
>
> please learn about business before you post again.
>

Yes you should.

In article
<linuxlovesosx-91A44B.15500901122007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net>,
Oxford <linuxlovesosx@superart.com> wrote:

> > Please tell us AGAIN how Steve Jobs doesn't "pre-announce" anything.
> >
> > Remember, your words are recorded for posterity.
> >
> > What will you say down the road when you want to backtrack on your claim?
>
> the iphone wasn't pre-announced it was simply announced. big difference.

Pray tell, what is the difference?

I mean, I agree with you. But the general unwashed masses take
"pre-announced" to mean "announced prior to its availability".

Steve Jobs announces products far, far before their availability so as
to drum up excitement among those same unwashed masses.

What do YOU mean by "it wasn't pre-announced, it was merely announced"?

You will ignore this, because you are now out of options.

In article
<linuxlovesosx-6574E3.13495201122007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net>,
Oxford <linuxlovesosx@superart.com> wrote:

> CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
>
> > He pre-announces everything. Pre-market hype is what Apple is all about.
> > Hype the hell out of a product before the consumer gets it in their hands
> > and realizes what a piece of crap it is- that's the Apple way.
>
> he does? that would be news if so. actually he doesn't say a word until
> he is ready to announce. Then yes, for good reason the press and the
> public hypes the advent of the next great product coming into society.
>
> But Apple? they remain very quite except a press release and the 20
> minute announcement.
>
> gosh, you sure don't know much about how apple works do you...

No, no one knows how Apple works. All we see is what they do.

And what did Steve Jobs do? He announced the iPhone way, WAY before it
was available.

Let me use plain English to explain to you what Cozmic said:

"He announces everything far before its availability. Pre-availability
hype is what Apple is all about. Hype the hell out of a product before
the consumer gets it in his hands and realizes what a piece of crap it
is--that's the Apple way."

Do you disagree that that's what Cozmic said?

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in
news:elmop-29194D.18261601122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com:

>
> Let me use plain English to explain to you what Cozmic said:
>
> "He announces everything far before its availability.
> Pre-availability hype is what Apple is all about. Hype the hell out
> of a product before the consumer gets it in his hands and realizes
> what a piece of crap it is--that's the Apple way."
>
> Do you disagree that that's what Cozmic said?
>
>

Well put, Elmo.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> stated in post
elmop-29194D.18261601122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com on 12/1/07 4:26 PM:

> In article
> <linuxlovesosx-6574E3.13495201122007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net>,
> Oxford <linuxlovesosx@superart.com> wrote:
>
>> CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
>>
>>> He pre-announces everything. Pre-market hype is what Apple is all about.
>>> Hype the hell out of a product before the consumer gets it in their hands
>>> and realizes what a piece of crap it is- that's the Apple way.
>>
>> he does? that would be news if so. actually he doesn't say a word until
>> he is ready to announce. Then yes, for good reason the press and the
>> public hypes the advent of the next great product coming into society.
>>
>> But Apple? they remain very quite except a press release and the 20
>> minute announcement.
>>
>> gosh, you sure don't know much about how apple works do you...
>
> No, no one knows how Apple works. All we see is what they do.
>
> And what did Steve Jobs do? He announced the iPhone way, WAY before it
> was available.
>
> Let me use plain English to explain to you what Cozmic said:
>
> "He announces everything far before its availability. Pre-availability
> hype is what Apple is all about. Hype the hell out of a product before
> the consumer gets it in his hands and realizes what a piece of crap it
> is--that's the Apple way."
>
> Do you disagree that that's what Cozmic said?
>
Apple *sometimes* announces things quite a bit in advance but often does
not. And when they announce something they *usually* deliver what they
promise, or very near so (unlike, say, Microsoft).


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"Snit" <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in message
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> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> stated in post
> elmop-29194D.18261601122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com on 12/1/07 4:26 PM:
>
>> In article
>> <linuxlovesosx-6574E3.13495201122007@mpls-nnrp-04.inet.qwest.net>,
>> Oxford <linuxlovesosx@superart.com> wrote:
>>
>>> CozmicDebris <isheforreal> wrote:
>>>
>>>> He pre-announces everything. Pre-market hype is what Apple is all
>>>> about.
>>>> Hype the hell out of a product before the consumer gets it in their
>>>> hands
>>>> and realizes what a piece of crap it is- that's the Apple way.
>>>
>>> he does? that would be news if so. actually he doesn't say a word until
>>> he is ready to announce. Then yes, for good reason the press and the
>>> public hypes the advent of the next great product coming into society.
>>>
>>> But Apple? they remain very quite except a press release and the 20
>>> minute announcement.
>>>
>>> gosh, you sure don't know much about how apple works do you...
>>
>> No, no one knows how Apple works. All we see is what they do.
>>
>> And what did Steve Jobs do? He announced the iPhone way, WAY before it
>> was available.
>>
>> Let me use plain English to explain to you what Cozmic said:
>>
>> "He announces everything far before its availability. Pre-availability
>> hype is what Apple is all about. Hype the hell out of a product before
>> the consumer gets it in his hands and realizes what a piece of crap it
>> is--that's the Apple way."
>>
>> Do you disagree that that's what Cozmic said?
>>
> Apple *sometimes* announces things quite a bit in advance but often does
> not. And when they announce something they *usually* deliver what they
> promise, or very near so (unlike, say, Microsoft).

There's a lot of twists and turns in that statement. -- "sometimes",
"usually". --- When are you going to run for office? You can count on my
vote.

"zara" <heddonzspook@optonline.net> stated in post
FBm4j.24715$L%6.4941@bignews3.bellsouth.net on 12/1/07 5:02 PM:

>>> Do you disagree that that's what Cozmic said?
>>>
>> Apple *sometimes* announces things quite a bit in advance but often does
>> not. And when they announce something they *usually* deliver what they
>> promise, or very near so (unlike, say, Microsoft).
>
> There's a lot of twists and turns in that statement. -- "sometimes",
> "usually". --- When are you going to run for office? You can count on my
> vote.

Thanks! I was planning on running for President in 2010... as far as I know
the competition is expected to be lighter then than it is this go-round [as
far as I can tell *nobody* else is planning on running then!]


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