Did Apple just trump AT&T? It appears so...

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
news:elmop-08F80E.19342702122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com...
> In article <iphone-214999.16462002122007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net>,
> O x f o r d <iphone@superphone.com> wrote:
>
>> > Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
>> > in Steve Jobs's world?
>>
>> After a world wide search going on for nearly 2 months, 24/7 by 1000's
>> of people, nobody has come up with the secret you keep.
>
> You mean, after a search through your underwear and with you sticking
> your head in the sand and refusing to see the answer spoon fed to you,
> YOU haven't come up with the answer.
>
> Hint: the answer isn't in the sand, nor is it in your underwear.

Why is he doing this search trying to figure this all out ?
Did he not say he knows all when it comes to apple ?

The ofturd quote: Thanks for playing.

In article <C378A06B.9C06C%CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>,
Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

> > After a world wide search going on for nearly 2 months, 24/7 by 1000's
> > of people, nobody has come up with the secret you keep.
>
> He did not want Jobs to see the famous Xerox tour... and would only do so if
> under "orders". Atkinson has described that tour as an inspiration and as
> something that helped them know they were already on the right track. Jobs
> and company understood the importance of the graphical system far better
> than did the Xerox management.

close.

Anyway, Jobs and company saw nothing BUT the GUI, and completely missed
the significance of the network and the printing. COMPLETELY.

Jobs was so blind, it wasn't funny.

In article <2SI4j.6037$AR7.4357@nlpi070.nbdc.sbc.com>,
"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> >> After a world wide search going on for nearly 2 months, 24/7 by 1000's
> >> of people, nobody has come up with the secret you keep.
> >
> > You mean, after a search through your underwear and with you sticking
> > your head in the sand and refusing to see the answer spoon fed to you,
> > YOU haven't come up with the answer.
> >
> > Hint: the answer isn't in the sand, nor is it in your underwear.
>
> Why is he doing this search trying to figure this all out ?
> Did he not say he knows all when it comes to apple ?

That's right. Oxford is the world's most foremost expert on Apple and
its history.

Just ask him.

Then ask him who Adele Goldberg is, and what crucial role did she play
in Steve Jobs's life.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> stated in post
elmop-1A461D.20361602122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com on 12/2/07 6:36 PM:

> In article <C378A06B.9C06C%CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com>,
> Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
>>> After a world wide search going on for nearly 2 months, 24/7 by 1000's
>>> of people, nobody has come up with the secret you keep.
>>
>> He did not want Jobs to see the famous Xerox tour... and would only do so if
>> under "orders". Atkinson has described that tour as an inspiration and as
>> something that helped them know they were already on the right track. Jobs
>> and company understood the importance of the graphical system far better
>> than did the Xerox management.
>
> close.
>
> Anyway, Jobs and company saw nothing BUT the GUI, and completely missed
> the significance of the network and the printing. COMPLETELY.

And yet Apple was very early in the home networking environment (did
*anyone* beat them to that... think of the old PhoneNet adapters) and they
pretty much created the desktop publishing industry.
>
> Jobs was so blind, it wasn't funny.

Support?


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O x f o r d <iphone@superphone.com> wrote in news:iphone-
214999.16462002122007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net:

> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
>> in Steve Jobs's world?
>
> After a world wide search going on for nearly 2 months, 24/7 by 1000's
> of people, nobody has come up with the secret you keep.

That's not true, tard boy. Many of us know the answer.

O x f o r d <iphone@superphone.com> wrote in news:iphone-
EBE62C.18090302122007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net:

> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>
>> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WdS4TscWH8
>>
>> What point were you trying to prove.
>>
>> All that video shows is a dream list of vaporware.
>
> not sure what you mean, apple has every portion in place except for the
> foldable screen and a bit of AI.

And it is vaporware.

>
> wireless is there, www is there, built in camera is there, voice rec is
> there, multi-touch screen is there, ichat is there.
>
> and apple/sj popularized it all...


Sorry, stupid. Apple did not popularize wireless, www, cameras, voice
recording or chat.

"CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
Xns99FAC8D5A5457isheforreal@216.196.97.142 on 12/2/07 7:44 PM:

> O x f o r d <iphone@superphone.com> wrote in news:iphone-
> EBE62C.18090302122007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net:
>
>> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>>
>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WdS4TscWH8
>>>
>>> What point were you trying to prove.
>>>
>>> All that video shows is a dream list of vaporware.
>>
>> not sure what you mean, apple has every portion in place except for the
>> foldable screen and a bit of AI.
>
> And it is vaporware.

You either do not know the meaning of the word "vaporware" or you are
purposely using it incorrectly. Or, perhaps, you are merely clueless about
the video in question. Either way: it is *not* vaporware.

>> wireless is there, www is there, built in camera is there, voice rec is
>> there, multi-touch screen is there, ichat is there.
>>
>> and apple/sj popularized it all...
>
> Sorry, stupid. Apple did not popularize wireless, www, cameras, voice
> recording or chat.

Apple was instrumental in at least some of those.



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In article <elmop-08F80E.19342702122007@nntp1.usenetserver.com>,
"Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

> In article <iphone-214999.16462002122007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net>,
> O x f o r d <iphone@superphone.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hey, Oxford: who is Adele Goldberg, and what crucial role did she play
> > > in Steve Jobs's world?
> >
> > After a world wide search going on for nearly 2 months, 24/7 by 1000's
> > of people, nobody has come up with the secret you keep.
>
> You mean, after a search through your underwear and with you sticking
> your head in the sand and refusing to see the answer spoon fed to you,
> YOU haven't come up with the answer.
>
> Hint: the answer isn't in the sand, nor is it in your underwear.

Wikipedia entry:

Adele Goldberg (born July 22, 1945) is a computer scientist who wrote or
co-wrote books on the programming language Smalltalk-80. In the 1970's
she worked for Xerox's PARC laboratory on the Xerox Alto. She refused to
give Steve Jobs a tour of the laboratory unless her superiors would
order her to, which they eventually did.

She is currently working for Neometron, Inc., of Palo Alto, California.
Goldberg was born in Cleveland, Ohio, and grew up in Chicago, Illinois.
In 1994 she was inducted as a Fellow of the Association for Computing
Machinery.

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Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in
news:C378C903.9C0BE%CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com:

> "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
> Xns99FAC8D5A5457isheforreal@216.196.97.142 on 12/2/07 7:44 PM:
>
>> O x f o r d <iphone@superphone.com> wrote in news:iphone-
>> EBE62C.18090302122007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net:
>>
>>> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>>>
>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WdS4TscWH8
>>>>
>>>> What point were you trying to prove.
>>>>
>>>> All that video shows is a dream list of vaporware.
>>>
>>> not sure what you mean, apple has every portion in place except for
>>> the foldable screen and a bit of AI.
>>
>> And it is vaporware.
>
> You either do not know the meaning of the word "vaporware" or you are
> purposely using it incorrectly. Or, perhaps, you are merely clueless
> about the video in question. Either way: it is *not* vaporware.

Is the product in question available to the general public?

>
>>> wireless is there, www is there, built in camera is there, voice rec
>>> is there, multi-touch screen is there, ichat is there.
>>>
>>> and apple/sj popularized it all...
>>
>> Sorry, stupid. Apple did not popularize wireless, www, cameras,
>> voice recording or chat.
>
> Apple was instrumental in at least some of those.
>
>
>

No- Apple included those in their products. They were not instrumental in
the devlopment or inital release of many of them.

"CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
Xns99FAD47887837isheforreal@216.196.97.142 on 12/2/07 8:53 PM:

> Snit <CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote in
> news:C378C903.9C0BE%CSMA@gallopinginsanity.com:
>
>> "CozmicDebris" <isheforreal> stated in post
>> Xns99FAC8D5A5457isheforreal@216.196.97.142 on 12/2/07 7:44 PM:
>>
>>> O x f o r d <iphone@superphone.com> wrote in news:iphone-
>>> EBE62C.18090302122007@mpls-nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net:
>>>
>>>> DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WdS4TscWH8
>>>>>
>>>>> What point were you trying to prove.
>>>>>
>>>>> All that video shows is a dream list of vaporware.
>>>>
>>>> not sure what you mean, apple has every portion in place except for
>>>> the foldable screen and a bit of AI.
>>>
>>> And it is vaporware.
>>
>> You either do not know the meaning of the word "vaporware" or you are
>> purposely using it incorrectly. Or, perhaps, you are merely clueless
>> about the video in question. Either way: it is *not* vaporware.
>
> Is the product in question available to the general public?

What "product"? The video? If so, clearly yes... it is on YouTube. If you
mean the fictitious products depicted in the video that were never promised
or even claimed to be in the works, well, of course not.
>
>>
>>>> wireless is there, www is there, built in camera is there, voice rec
>>>> is there, multi-touch screen is there, ichat is there.
>>>>
>>>> and apple/sj popularized it all...
>>>
>>> Sorry, stupid. Apple did not popularize wireless, www, cameras,
>>> voice recording or chat.
>>
>> Apple was instrumental in at least some of those.
>
> No- Apple included those in their products. They were not instrumental in
> the devlopment or inital release of many of them.

Interesting movement of the goal posts from you: from popularizing to
developing or releasing them first. Why the change?


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