Note dropped Verizon from group no iPhone UI for them
On Dec 15, 11:42 pm, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> digi <jhar...@gmail.com> wrote in news:4b20b43b-7197-454d-b6c4-
> 1543acdcd...@q77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
>
> > iPhones are toys.
>
> I think my analogy is better.....Pocket WebTV.
>
> See the resemblence? Browser-based everything...web appliance...no
> downloading...no storage....no program running....for dummies.
>
> Pocket WebTV.....er, except WebTV at least has a KEYBOARD!
>
> Larry
> --
Larry I respect you for you appear knowledgeable but you begin to
loose it when you spew incorrect information. All of the above is
blatantly false. Larry get with it.
The iPhone and its little brother iTouch can download over the air.
Apple now allows you to have custom ring tones made out of what ever
you want.
http://feeds.tuaw.com/~r/weblogsinc/tuaw/~3/200322259/
And I have a lot of programs installed including a resident RSS reader
that allows one to store RSS feeds to read say when on a long plane
flight. There you would have no access to AT&T or a WiFi network. For
about five or ten minutes of refreshing the reader you could have
enough data to keep you busy reading for hours upon hours of no
connection.
BTW you can listen to podcasts or music while reading your feeds.
There is also a program that downloads podcasts from anywhere directly
to the Apple device over the air. I also installed three more new
games I downloaded last night. There were two new automatic updates to
software I installed last month. I am sure there are thousands doing
this now but know this Larry,everyone else can play starting in
February.
I had to carry a Win Mobile device and use it all day long for over a
year. It crashed occasional at the worst time. I hated it and
eventually got the whole company to realize they were crap and no one
in IT was ever going to fix them. I had a windows PDA before that
which I eventually gave away to some kid in school. Everything in the
post I pointed to is accurate, the UI is poor and requires a stylus to
poke dinky little details. Have you ever seen one of these when
someone you handed it to capture a signature after they signed it with
a ball point pen?
Just for fun (4phun) here are a few observations I noticed from users
coming from this old crap into the new iPhone user interface and its
touch screen keyboard where you DO NOT NEED A STYLUS.
BY ARASHI AT 12/14/07 01:04 PM
Been using WM5/6 for over an year now, and while you certainly can get
along with it, it has serious problems. And yes, the UI is the
biggest. They tried to cram way too much functionality behind tiny
little icons and dropdown menus that are pain in the ass to use
without the stylus. Now stylus, there is nothing that can justify the
need of digging out stick every time you want to use the device just
that you can poke those tiny little icons and dropdown menus, nothing.
I've downloaded quite a bit of applications since the release of
iPhone that allow me to use my fingers instead of stylus and I can
guarantee, if you weren't using PDA before iPhone, you certainly can't
comprehend the ball of revolution they [Apple] set rolling in the
scene.
Mystic said...
Are you kidding me!!!? You have to be mental not to be able to type on
the iPhone keyboard. Personally, I can type twice as fast as I could
on the Treo or Sidekick, and when I put it on a table and use two
fingers, even faster.
Thayne Miller said...
I've owned PDAs ever since their inception with the Newton, Palm,
Windows CE, WM5.0, and now the iPhone. I've used keyboards of all
kinds, both QWERTY, T9, fitaly, and software. I can honestly say the
iPhone's keyboard is the fastest keyboard I could ask for. I used to
be able to type pretty quick on a T9 Motorola, but you can't do
symbols very easily. The iPhone makes it a cinch. In fact, when I show
off my iPhone, people are always quick to point out how impressed they
are with how fast I can type on it! You don't know how many times I've
heard, "wow, that keyboard is much faster than my [insert cell phone
here]."
Harry said...
I owned the Treo 600, Treo 650 and Blackberry Pearl before iPhone, and
I can assure you that their keyboards don't hold a candle compared to
my iPhone.
I can type almost 3 times as fast. The secret I've discovered is that
you must not press the virtual keys too hard you just need to caress
the buttons and then you'll have greater sensitivity and thus, more
speed.
Birru said...
I got used to my iPhone keyboard the evening I got it. Leading up to
ownership, the keyboard was my biggest concern. It turned out to be a
non-issue. I. Love. My. iPhone. I fly on it now and the iPhone is my
main email client just because I don't feel like digging out my
MacBook while I'm out and about. I've never liked smartphone keyboards
though, and I was always pretty fast with T9 on my Sony Ericsson.
will said...
What do you mean, "iphone keyboard" vs "qwerty keyboard"?? The iphone
keyboard *is* a qwerty keyboard! hello? It's right there, clear as
day, Q W E R T Y. I think you mean iphone keyboard vs "physical"
keyboard or perhaps "tactile" keyboard..
For what it's worth, I do think the tactile keyboards are quicker to
type on, if for no other reason that you don't have to look at your
fingers while you're typing, you can just feel the keys. But on the
whole I love the iphone tons more than any of the tactile keyboard
phones out there, so I wouldn't consider trading it out for a second.
I'm mostly used to the iphone keyboard now, and don't mind it. The
only real problem I have is its complete lack of ability to learn 3-
letter and 2-letter words. It JUST WON'T DO IT. And I get tired,
honestly, of X-ing out the suggested "us" when I typed "ha" and X-ing
out "agh" when I typed "ahh" (and what kind of word is "agh"
anyway??). They really need to fix that.
BY KEEBLER AT 12/14/07 12:37 PM
Cool article.
One important thing that I think was left out is: yes, you can
download windows mobile programs to add additional features, but those
additional programs often are at the expense of the stability of the
entire phone. I added an app to allow me to switch between tasks and
my phone would crash twice a day. This type of thing was very common
when I had a WinMo phone. I've had a large number of apps installed on
my iPhone and only two have made it crash (both IM apps strangely).
Y EUROPRIA AT 12/14/07 01:05 PM
I hate to sound like a fanboy, but only thing broken with than
platform is IT IS NOT IPHONE. I don't if it is a fact but I feel
Microsoft's user experience designers product managers with software
or business background where as IPhone seems like it is designed by
fashion designer or an architect
(PS: I make my living writing software with Microsoft Products)...
BY MULLINGITOVER AT 12/14/07 01:41 PM
I've used Windows Mobile 5 for a year, and I've had an iPhone for the
last six weeks. WM6 looks pretty marginal, and I'm sure WM7 and WM8
are going to be increasingly kneejerk reactions to the iPhone. The
bottom line is that with Windows Mobile, I ended up using it as a
phone and an alarm clock and nothing more. It was just too slow and
clunky. Every task is completely lacking in consideration of
ergonomics and usability. Watching old people do move furniture is a
more apt description.
Then there's the iPhone, which is practically from a different planet.
It's like the designers completely bossed around the engineers, the
opposite of what the the Windows Mobile convention is.
Bottom line: I'd use Windows Mobile because I had to, and I use the
iPhone because I actually like to.
"I pick it up [a friend's iPhone] and start crying"
