3G iPhone to include N WIFI to protect AT&T 3G network?

Richard B. Gilbert wrote:

> Why not? It COSTS to create and maintain a network. It costs more to
> connect such a network to the internet in such a way as to provide
> decent performance for multiple users: Cisco Router or equivalent,
> firewall, N port switch where N is at least the number of rooms, T1 or
> T3 service. . . .
>
> Last time I stayed in a hotel, I paid a buck or two for internet access.
> I felt that I was getting my money's worth.

A couple of bucks is fine. In the hotel we're staying at tonight, it's
$15/day. I think they're just being stupid. At $15, almost no one will
use it, this isn't a business person's hotel, it's a resort hotel. At $5
a day, a lot of people would probably use it. I'll take a list of free
WiFi hots pots with me.

Ron <ron.clifford@peoplepc.com> wrote in
news:e2abr31uhrutvrri3n7p4pohvs92md6ghl@4ax.com:

> McDonalds, Burger King and Jack-in-the-Box are adding free, open WiFi
> as fast as they can.
>
>

Mickey D wants money, here. It was kinda high, too, for what you got.

All the Mickey Ds are franchise stores so that may be the reason.

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in
news:47b5c368$0$36338$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> Kurt wrote:
>
>> I fee the same way. When out to use my iPhone or laptop, I only give
>> my buisness to places with free WIFI. Never use Starbucks. Even worse
>> are the hotels that you pay to stay at that charge you. Generally
>> won't stay there.
>
> The more you pay for the room, the less likely the hotel is to provide
> free WiFi.
>
> Still, in some areas the chain motels are exceptionally crappy, poorly
> located, and run down. I.e. in Reno, you can usually stay at a place
> like the Grand Sierra (formerly the Hilton) for less than a place like
> Quality Inn, La Quinta, etc., but there is no free wireless. I've been
> in some nice La Quinta's, but not all of the franchises are very good.
>
>

Also, here in Charleston, there is a chain of UPS Stores around the city.
They all have free wifi you can access from the parking lot free. I can't
ship UPS, though, because some of their employees tried, unsuccessfully, to
steal some of my musical instruments that were coming in to me a couple of
years ago. I ship FEDEX or DHL because of the way I was treated.

The UPS stores are not UPS owned. They're franchises from UPS to use the
logo...shipping points, mailboxes, etc.

SMS wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>
>> Why not? It COSTS to create and maintain a network. It costs more
>> to connect such a network to the internet in such a way as to provide
>> decent performance for multiple users: Cisco Router or equivalent,
>> firewall, N port switch where N is at least the number of rooms, T1
>> or T3 service. . . .
>>
>> Last time I stayed in a hotel, I paid a buck or two for internet
>> access. I felt that I was getting my money's worth.
>
> A couple of bucks is fine. In the hotel we're staying at tonight, it's
> $15/day. I think they're just being stupid. At $15, almost no one will
> use it, this isn't a business person's hotel, it's a resort hotel. At
> $5 a day, a lot of people would probably use it. I'll take a list of
> free WiFi hots pots with me.

Don't know if this is a casino but a casino manager/friend told me they'd
rather the guests be out of their room (gambling) so set the Internet fee
higher than it should be, and certainly not free (this is a mid-level
casino/hotel in Henderson, NV where you can still get a room for $69--but
still pay $15 for 'Net access). Don't think they comp it either.


--
Mike

SMS wrote:
> Richard B. Gilbert wrote:
>
>> Why not? It COSTS to create and maintain a network. It costs more to
>> connect such a network to the internet in such a way as to provide
>> decent performance for multiple users: Cisco Router or equivalent,
>> firewall, N port switch where N is at least the number of rooms, T1 or
>> T3 service. . . .
>>
>> Last time I stayed in a hotel, I paid a buck or two for internet
>> access. I felt that I was getting my money's worth.
>
>
> A couple of bucks is fine. In the hotel we're staying at tonight, it's
> $15/day. I think they're just being stupid. At $15, almost no one will
> use it, this isn't a business person's hotel, it's a resort hotel. At $5
> a day, a lot of people would probably use it. I'll take a list of free
> WiFi hots pots with me.

$15/day seems a little extreme!!

"Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88@comcast.net> wrote in
news:47B5CB8A.5010406@comcast.net:

> Why not? It COSTS to create and maintain a network. It costs more to
> connect such a network to the internet in such a way as to provide
> decent performance for multiple users: Cisco Router or equivalent,
> firewall, N port switch where N is at least the number of rooms, T1 or
> T3 service. . . .
>

The "system" I set up in the restaurant was a cable modem hooked to a
Linksys wifi router I got from a thrift shop for $10. Way bigshot system.
256 users can share but there's only about 20 seats in the whole place.
We're not downloading from usenet, like at home, so it works great for all
and he already had the cable running for himself and his credit card
machine, so the extra cost was $10. I was referring to free wifi at
RESTAURANTS, not the Waldorf-Astoria.

Oh, I forgot, we bought an ethernet cable....add $15 because we paid
retail.

SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in news:47b5d872$0$36338
$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net:

> I'll take a list of free
> WiFi hots pots with me.
>

Chick-Fil-A is free...
Ihop is free, too....
all over town, here.

One Ihop had a terrible signal, so I asked the general manager to let me
see his installation. I moved the router from behind the desk on the floor
to sitting atop a bookshelf with the antennas pointing up, not buried under
his desktop machine. Signals are great, now, even in the parking lot!

He said the guy who installed it didn't know much about radio systems....it
was him...(c; Will trade network troubleshooting for breakfast!...(c;

In article <Xns9A455EEE12717noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> > Pay-as-you-go service is $3.95 for two hours, down from $6.00 per hour
> > or $10.00 per day with T-Mobile.
> >
> >
>
> See? I told ya. SELLphones....nickel and dime you to death....
>
> Right across the parking lot from Starbucky's is Atlanta Bread and Panera
> Bread cafes, here. Free internet for ALL at both places. It didn't SELL
> before....it won't SELL, now.

We're not talking cellular access here, so we're not discussing
"SELLphones". We're talking wi-fi. Has zero to do with phones.

Shut up, foilhead.

In article <Xns9A455EEE12717noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Oh, a little plug for a great little Italian fast food at the corner of
> Montague Ave and Dorchester Rd in N Charleston, SC, Pizza Roma. Free wifi
> to all from the Linksys I installed over the cash register connected
> through Knology Cable.

Nobody gives a shit about your Knology Cable. You talk about that as if
it's meaningful. You talk about Knology everywhere you go, like it's
special or something. Nobody cares if it's Knology Cable or Joe's
Cable. Get that through your thick skull.

And we presume this little Italian fast food place of yours is a family
joint? Anything to get the 8 year old girls there, eh, Larry?

Tinman wrote:

> Don't know if this is a casino but a casino manager/friend told me they'd
> rather the guests be out of their room (gambling) so set the Internet fee
> higher than it should be, and certainly not free (this is a mid-level
> casino/hotel in Henderson, NV where you can still get a room for $69--but
> still pay $15 for 'Net access). Don't think they comp it either.

Yes it is a casino hotel, not that we've ever been to the casino, in
fact we found a side entrance and parking lot that lets us completely
avoid that whole area of the hotel. The room is $69 for the first two
nights, free for the third night. It's a much nicer room, at a lower
cost, than the nearby small chain motels, but there are no freebies like
WiFi, or continental breakfast. Normally I'm fine with something like La
Quinta, if it's a reasonably good franchise, but all those types of
motels in this area are either run down and in bad parts of town, or
relatively new and nearly twice as expensive.

Last year we stayed in a cottage in the hostel in Banff, and even at the
hostel there was free WiFi.