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Old February 23rd, 2008
Larry
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Default $52 per Month Unlimited on Sprint, using Voicestick

"Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:DwGvj.8679$ea6.6562@en-nntp-01.dc1.easynews.com:

> "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9A4BEFC7C1103noonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
>> Skype audio, even on EVDO, sounds just like you're on a landline, but
>> without the analog hissing and sputtering noises....to any place that
>> has broadband.

>
> That hasn't been my experience with VoIP. On international calls,
> VoIP is fine oh, say... 90% of the time. But the other 10% of the
> time I get random disconnects, horribly distorted speech, and other
> artifiacts. It may be the Internet in general, it may be my
> particular provider, who knows? But the point is that -- for the
> average user -- there IS no way of knowing, so it's a bit of a
> crapshoot. On the other hand, with *just* a cell phone, barring known
> areas where simply lack coverage, the call quality is more like 99.9%.
>
> So, again... fine for calling friends and family, not something I'd
> want to run a business over.
>
>
>


I wonder if Skype works better because of its careful 256-bit
encryption, which must also be transmitted in perfect code or it isn't
going to be accepted. I've never heard any distortion, etc., on Skype
because Skype's software has automatic gain control. Skype sets the
audio level, itself, instead of depending on the user. Even the
cheapest 99c microphone from the thrift shop, what I use at home, sounds
great.

Skype over wifi or sellphone data is, of course, subject to being
intermittent if, for instance, some idiot you're trying to talk to
doesn't have BROADBAND and is trying to use Skype on a dialup or low
bandwidth sellphone circuit that's fading in and out. That has nothing
to do with Skype, though. It DOES have to have its data in a timely
manner like any streaming audio. However, the 500ms awful latency of a
sellphone data circuit over bluetooth DUN doesn't seem to bother it at
all.

Running a business on Skype wouldn't be any worse, but possibly better,
than making business calls on your sellphone with it cutting in and out
from the crappy coverage of the average sellphone carrier's poorly laid
out system. Skype on your desktop or over your wifi doesn't have
sellphone dead zones or dropped calls. Skype at the office over
Ethernet to broadband sounds much better than the deskphone next to the
computer if you're calling Timbuctoo on POTS.



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Old February 23rd, 2008
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Default $52 per Month Unlimited on Sprint, using Voicestick

"Joel Koltner" <zapwireDASHgroups@yahoo.com> wrote in news:dFGvj.16168
$Gv.4746@en-nntp-07.dc1.easynews.com:

> Hi Todd,
>
> "Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message
> news:9Ysvj.36$OB5.12@fe127.usenetserver.com...
>> Perhaps, but many businesses use VoIP themselves these days (but

under
>> ideal balanced network conditions vs. those at home)

>
> That's a big difference in my mind. :-)
>
> I probably am too pessimistic about this based on personal mediocre
> experiences with VoIP for international calls.
>
> ---Joel
>
>
>


If your business calls Skype to Skype, instead of POTS to POTS, and both
ends have reliable broadband, which business normally does, the directly
connected computers will provide much more secure (with 256 bit
encryption of Skype) and only 2 conversions, right in front of you, from
end to end.

If you call him on POTS, you have the odd noises of analog telephones
buzzing and clicking until it gets to the POTS point of being converted,
noise converted too, to data. On the other end, more POTS noise is
introduced between their data to analog conversion point and the desk
phone it's connected to, adding more to the distortions and noise of the
POTS link.

Some people have complained to me about their Skype sounding funny or
being distorted. Because I got them on Skype, I feel partly responsible
for this problem so I go look. The cheapest plastic shitty free
computer speakers that came with the box is 99% of the problem. A
speaker 1" across is terrible! I fixed one not long ago by simply
plugging the nice little stereo on his desk next to the computer into
the computer audio output, junking the crap speakers into his
wastebasket. He couldn't believe how great Skype sounded over a real hi
fi! My computer is the center of my home entertainment system, here.
It is permanently connected to a 300W/channel hi fi whos radio hasn't
been listened to in 10 years and a pair of 12" REAL floor speakers, not
these little plastic boxes Best Buy sells for a stereo these days, which
are CRAP! Skype sounds like you're talking over a big stereo, not a tin
can in my living room....(c;

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