Replacement of PDA and phone

"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> writes:

> The Tilt uses 3G which is 30.00 a month unlimited use.

And make that $60/mo if you want to do tethering.

I paid about $300 after $100 rebate for mine, but was an early
adopter.

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In article <QGQGj.427$Nc5.388@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> "Kurt" <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in message
> news:labolide-2F0934.10100027032008@news.giganews.com...
> > In article <clQGj.5$Gq7.4@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net>,
> > "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:47eba508$0$36397$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
> >> > Robert A. Fink, M. D. wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> 4. The Apple iPhone appears to be a nice piece of equipment, but it
> >> >> has several shortcomings, including having to work through iTunes,
> >> >> battery replacement problems, a "mediocre" phone (by report), not
> >> >> compatible with 3G service (I use ATT's Laptop Connect service); and
> >> >> it remains relatively pricey.
> >> >
> >> > The iPhone is actually not all that pricey, but it's limited in
> >> > functionality. Definitely wait for the new 3G model if going with the
> >> > iPhone.
> >> >
> >> > The best choice is the HTC Tilt 8925 / TyTN II (Kaiser). This is far
> >> > more
> >> > fully featured than the iPhone, with 3G, voice-dialing, GPS, and a
> >> > better
> >> > OS. It's about the same price as the iPhone because you get a discount
> >> > for
> >> > a contract renewal.
> >>
> >> Costco has the tilt, Comes with 12V cord leather case and a Bluetooth
> >> headset which was the moto rechargeable one that was selling for 79.99.
> >>
> >> The complete kit was 249.99 after rebate. Add all that to the iPhone, and
> >> the iPhone is over twice the price.
> >
> > Both are chump change compared to monthly phone/data/tax charges.
> > You could pay that in one month's usage.
> >
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>
>
> The Tilt uses 3G which is 30.00 a month unlimited use. Add 5.00 a moth for
> 200 text's if needed. He was talking about the cost of the Iphone as to the
> tilt being almost the same price. The Tilt is less then half the price of
> the Iphone and does much more the the iPhone both now and later on down the
> road. Even If apple were to add 3G and Microsoft apps. You can replace the
> battery and add more Flash mem when ever you want.

Yes, but the bigger picture bottom line is overall cost and the
functions you need.

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At 27 Mar 2008 11:33:40 -0400 Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:

> I thought you said it had a better OS, it runs WinMob...

Personally I love WinMo, but it's an OS that I'd only wish on both my
dearest friends and my worst enemies.

It'sthe most versitile mobile OS out there, but it's finicky and requires a
bit of TLC.

On the one hand, there are thousands of apps for it that will allow a PDA
to be essentially a full PC in terms of functionality, but in return you
get a clunky device (touchscreen "brick-sized" WinMo phones are far more
functional than the slimmer "smartphones" like the Moto Q) poor battery
life and a bit of a learning curve.

But a WinMo device can replace a laptop in ways no other phone on the
market can. I rarely take a laptop on trips any more- my WinMo phone is my
media player, e-mail/Outlook/internet device, and I can remote into my
desktop when necessary for the rare odd task my phone can't handle.

At 27 Mar 2008 12:13:11 -0400 Jeffrey Kaplan wrote:


> > It's true that the iPhone OS is more stable and its limited
> > functionality makes it easier to learn and use. If stability and ease
of
> > use is more important than functionality, then indeed the iPhone OS is
a
> > better choice.
>
> That statement makes me chuckle. What good is a bazilion features and
> programs, if the thing constantly falls over due to stability issues?
> Stability is Function Number 1.

I disagree- functionality is function number 1, stability is number two.
My old Nokia candtybar dumbphones are the most stable phones I've ever owned,
but I require more than phone calls and texting.

My WinMo device handles memory rather poorly- the amount of available RAM
decreases throught the day requiring the occasional nightly reboot to
reclaim it- that's a level of "instability" I'm more than willing to put up
with in return for carrying a "laptop" in my pocket.

Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Todd Allcock said:

> > That statement makes me chuckle. What good is a bazilion features and
> > programs, if the thing constantly falls over due to stability issues?
> > Stability is Function Number 1.
>
> I disagree- functionality is function number 1, stability is number two.
> My old Nokia candtybar dumbphones are the most stable phones I've ever owned,
> but I require more than phone calls and texting.

But if the thing constantly falls down, it's hard to use those
features.

> My WinMo device handles memory rather poorly- the amount of available RAM
> decreases throught the day requiring the occasional nightly reboot to
> reclaim it- that's a level of "instability" I'm more than willing to put up
> with in return for carrying a "laptop" in my pocket.

Close your apps, don't just switch out of them.

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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:00:50 -0500, t@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote:

>I've yet to pay for the software to convert over my Palm
>Desktop datebook into Outlook so it can sync to it, but I'm getting
>ready to as I start to use the phone more.


Tell me more. If I buy an iPhone (or one of the other non-Palm
devices), what do I need to do to transfer the data stored on my Palm
Tungsten C to a new device?

Best,

Bob

Robert A. Fink, M. D., FACS, P. C.
Neurological Surgery
2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
510-849-2555

"Ex Tristitia Virtus"

On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:10:00 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
wrote:

>> Costco has the tilt, Comes with 12V cord leather case and a Bluetooth
>> headset which was the moto rechargeable one that was selling for 79.99.
>>
>> The complete kit was 249.99 after rebate. Add all that to the iPhone, and
>> the iPhone is over twice the price.
>
>Both are chump change compared to monthly phone/data/tax charges.
>You could pay that in one month's usage.


But we are already paying for wireless phone, data, and tax charges
through our current phones. And I already use AT&T Laptop Connect
(3G) through my laptop. Will I have to pay double if I get a 3G phone?


Best,

Bob

Robert A. Fink, M. D., FACS, P. C.
Neurological Surgery
2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
510-849-2555

"Ex Tristitia Virtus"

In article <j83ou3pskm80kdb655h2g4vcl3evgu6lop@4ax.com>,
"Robert A. Fink, M. D." <lynxer@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:10:00 -0700, Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >> Costco has the tilt, Comes with 12V cord leather case and a Bluetooth
> >> headset which was the moto rechargeable one that was selling for 79.99.
> >>
> >> The complete kit was 249.99 after rebate. Add all that to the iPhone, and
> >> the iPhone is over twice the price.
> >
> >Both are chump change compared to monthly phone/data/tax charges.
> >You could pay that in one month's usage.
>
>
> But we are already paying for wireless phone, data, and tax charges
> through our current phones. And I already use AT&T Laptop Connect
> (3G) through my laptop. Will I have to pay double if I get a 3G phone?
>
Seems like it would be the same. I was only using the example that $79
could easily be one month's service for someone, and for others, who are
heavy users, much more. Just the point that the initial cost of buying a
unit, any unit, pales in comparison to what you'll be paying to the
phone company over time. Better to have something fun that you like,
rather than just looking at the few dollars you might "save" going in.

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In article <303ou3h72qri1slg99tr5kbuciqj6nljvj@4ax.com>,
"Robert A. Fink, M. D." <lynxer@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:00:50 -0500, t@toddh.net (Todd H.) wrote:
>
> >I've yet to pay for the software to convert over my Palm
> >Desktop datebook into Outlook so it can sync to it, but I'm getting
> >ready to as I start to use the phone more.
>
>
> Tell me more. If I buy an iPhone (or one of the other non-Palm
> devices), what do I need to do to transfer the data stored on my Palm
> Tungsten C to a new device?
>
Google it, there are a couple ways.

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"Kurt" <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in message
news:labolide-A3F182.11104827032008@news.giganews.com...
> In article <QGQGj.427$Nc5.388@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>,
> "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> "Kurt" <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:labolide-2F0934.10100027032008@news.giganews.com...
>> > In article <clQGj.5$Gq7.4@newssvr19.news.prodigy.net>,
>> > "Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "SMS" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:47eba508$0$36397$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>> >> > Robert A. Fink, M. D. wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> 4. The Apple iPhone appears to be a nice piece of equipment, but it
>> >> >> has several shortcomings, including having to work through iTunes,
>> >> >> battery replacement problems, a "mediocre" phone (by report), not
>> >> >> compatible with 3G service (I use ATT's Laptop Connect service);
>> >> >> and
>> >> >> it remains relatively pricey.
>> >> >
>> >> > The iPhone is actually not all that pricey, but it's limited in
>> >> > functionality. Definitely wait for the new 3G model if going with
>> >> > the
>> >> > iPhone.
>> >> >
>> >> > The best choice is the HTC Tilt 8925 / TyTN II (Kaiser). This is far
>> >> > more
>> >> > fully featured than the iPhone, with 3G, voice-dialing, GPS, and a
>> >> > better
>> >> > OS. It's about the same price as the iPhone because you get a
>> >> > discount
>> >> > for
>> >> > a contract renewal.
>> >>
>> >> Costco has the tilt, Comes with 12V cord leather case and a Bluetooth
>> >> headset which was the moto rechargeable one that was selling for
>> >> 79.99.
>> >>
>> >> The complete kit was 249.99 after rebate. Add all that to the iPhone,
>> >> and
>> >> the iPhone is over twice the price.
>> >
>> > Both are chump change compared to monthly phone/data/tax charges.
>> > You could pay that in one month's usage.
>> >
>> > --
>> > To reply by email, remove the word "space"
>>
>>
>> The Tilt uses 3G which is 30.00 a month unlimited use. Add 5.00 a moth
>> for
>> 200 text's if needed. He was talking about the cost of the Iphone as to
>> the
>> tilt being almost the same price. The Tilt is less then half the price of
>> the Iphone and does much more the the iPhone both now and later on down
>> the
>> road. Even If apple were to add 3G and Microsoft apps. You can replace
>> the
>> battery and add more Flash mem when ever you want.
>
> Yes, but the bigger picture bottom line is overall cost and the
> functions you need.
>
> --
> To reply by email, remove the word "space"


Same cost for the 3G service. Iphone or Tilt. Same price for both.
What does the Iphone offer that the Tilt does not ? Tilt Is cheaper the the
Iphone.