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Old April 2nd, 2008, 12:15 PM
Todd Allcock
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At 02 Apr 2008 06:59:44 -0700 Tinman wrote:

> As an FYI Gmail does IMAP now. I use it to poll and converge all of my

POP3
> accounts, placing them into proper categories.



Yeah, I Changed my GMail setup from POP to IMAP on my phone a few months ago.
Retrieval with POP was a little faster, but the ability to manipulate the
folders is an advantage that makes IMAP worth the slight speed hit.

Many e-mail providers support both POP and IMAP retrieval, and since IMAP
is far more suitable for multi-device access to e-mail, there are very few
reasons to stick with POP unless, perhaps, you're still on dialup, and
POP's quicker retrieval speed is an issue.


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Old April 2nd, 2008, 02:21 PM
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Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Larry said:

> I only use one email client, the one in my office on real broadband. I
> access it from this tablet, like I'm doing sending this message, from
> anywhere on the planet over remote desktop, either from my N800 Linux
> tablet or my laptop.
>
> All storage is done safely on my UPS-backed office system so I only have
> one database of traffic to contend with....no syncing, no trying to
> figure out where the message went, no losing it over the sellphone


Learn to spell, it's "cellphone", not "sellphone". If you don't like
what they're selling, don't buy it.

> When you send a file/photo/video to someone, it goes out of the office
> system at cable speed, not out of the portable slow as a turtle. If


Where is the file/photo/video that you're sending? If it's on your
local device, it will go out at whatever speed YOU are currently using.
If that's your CELLphone connected item, then it will go at your
CELLphone's speed, not your office broadband speed.

> someone sends me a big file, it takes no space from the portable device
> memory to store, and doesn't suck up battery time waiting and waiting
> for the slow sellphone downloads to kill the battery. It simply works


Wrong again. If you are viewing it on your CELLphone device, it will
take as long as your CELLphone network takes to pass the info on to
you. You're using your office system as a server. It's not the
server's speed that dictates how long it takes to retrieve and view
something, it's the speed of the client, which is whatever you're using
at the moment.

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Old April 2nd, 2008, 07:09 PM
Robert A. Fink, M. D.
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On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:03:03 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
<kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>I've set mine to not delete from my phone. But delete from the home system.



Does the iPhone allow for such "selective" deletion? Pegasus Mail (on
my desktop and laptops) allows for such.

Best,

Bob

Robert A. Fink, M. D., FACS, P. C.
Neurological Surgery
2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
510-849-2555

"Ex Tristitia Virtus"
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Old April 2nd, 2008, 08:16 PM
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"Robert A. Fink, M. D." <lynxer@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:s838v350dahv6ikue7idkue6vgjo2mqram@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:03:03 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>I've set mine to not delete from my phone. But delete from the home
>>system.

>
>
> Does the iPhone allow for such "selective" deletion? Pegasus Mail (on
> my desktop and laptops) allows for such.
>
> Best,
>
> Bob
>
> Robert A. Fink, M. D., FACS, P. C.
> Neurological Surgery
> 2500 Milvia Street Suite 222
> Berkeley, CA 94704-2636 USA
> 510-849-2555
>
> "Ex Tristitia Virtus"



Don't know as I don't have a iPhone. ; )

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Old April 2nd, 2008, 08:16 PM
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Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:ft0ajo$gre$1@aioe.org:

> This boy does. But why in God's name would I fire up a cumbersome
> remote terminal access program just to check e-mail? My phone's
> e-mail client grabs e-mail periodically so it's already downloaded and
> waiting for me when I want to check it. I guarantee that regardless
> of how fast you can make a remote connection, I'll have access faster,
> since it's ready there.
>
>


Ok by me. But, my emails have some pretty big attachments. Where do you
put them? How do you get them from the phone to the computer, download
them again off the server? That time must also be included.

The remote terminal is far from "cumbersome" on wifi, and not really bad on
EVDO. rdesktop is optimized to minimize bandwidth usage. it only updates
what needs updating. It's not a video shot of the screen, but you knew
that. The only drawback is the 500-800ms latency of the Sellphone data
links, but I'll live with that until the Wimax rollout.

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Old April 2nd, 2008, 08:57 PM
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Jeffrey Kaplan <nomail@gordol.org> wrote in
news:8vh7v39ib0g36v9h6optemvrkhh7o28ggi@gordol.org :

> Learn to spell, it's "cellphone", not "sellphone". If you don't like
> what they're selling, don't buy it.
>
>


Nope...it's STILL a SELLphone....a box office device to rent you stuff in
your pocket....just like your new digital TV box office device is....

Why does my little updated description upset you so?

I don't like what they're selling and I don't buy what I don't like. I buy
basic phone service and internet data. I don't buy
games/ringtones/Selltop/Axcess apps or glitz. I wish the damned thing was
butt ugly so the black market wouldn't target it as a stealable gadget
every time you turn your back on it.

I told them I'd buy MobiTV (Axcess TV, 25 channels on Alltel) IF they'd fix
the software so it had a FULL SCREEN landscape mode....not that shitty
little fingernail-sized picture they're selling now for $12/mo. I think it
has some value that interests me...if I could SEE the picture. But they
don't, so I don't....

Wanna buy something on your Sellphone??.....(c;

Maybe what you need is some company-controlled web forum where never a
discouraging word is uttered.....eh?

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Old April 2nd, 2008, 09:45 PM
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"Kevin Weaver" <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:vWUIj.11639$qS5.9143@nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com:

>> Does the iPhone allow for such "selective" deletion? Pegasus Mail

(on
>> my desktop and laptops) allows for such.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Bob

>


Dr Bob,

Just for reference, Pegasus responds very well to Remote Desktop
operation. I use it here to my Nokia N800 Linux tablet over Remote
desktop, even over the sellphone link, every day.

You can leave Pegasus running continuously, logon to remote desktop to
your laptop, tablet, your office PC with your IP/username/password and
have full control of Pegasus from the remote location. Works great, no
syncing, no sellphone funny business, no multiple storage confusion.

If a large file comes in, say some media or document or presentation,
Remote Desktop can be setup so the remote device, whatever it is, can
act like an external hard drive, straight from Windows Explorer on the
home desktop, for example. Simply click and drag the object to the
remote devices storage of your choice and remote desktop will copy it
there for your use....without destroying the master copy safely stored
on your main PC.

Iphone doesn't have remote desktop, but your laptop or office desktop
already does.

If you must carry it, I recommend the Nokia N800 $230 with a free
rdesktop from maemo.org's download section. Tons of very useful
software, all free. Real word processing with an external bluetooth
keyboard made to type on, real spreadsheets, several databases and other
useful tools already for use on it.

Got special medical software on the main PC? Remote desktop can operate
it from anyplace on the net. Ask your local IT or hacker to help you
set it up on your existing units. Once configured, the only thing it
won't do is run video/audio to the remote. For that, you download the
media and play it on the remote locally.

Most users have no idea it's already included on their Windows, MAC
desktops and laptops. There's no need to rent an external service to
use it.

If you can call up those Xrays of Mr Jones on your home PC, you can view
them from your laptop or internet tablet via remote desktop. Wouldn't
that be handier for your application?

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Old April 2nd, 2008, 11:18 PM
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In article <s838v350dahv6ikue7idkue6vgjo2mqram@4ax.com>,
"Robert A. Fink, M. D." <lynxer@comcast.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Apr 2008 21:03:03 -0700, "Kevin Weaver"
> <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> >I've set mine to not delete from my phone. But delete from the home system.

>
>
> Does the iPhone allow for such "selective" deletion? Pegasus Mail (on
> my desktop and laptops) allows for such.
>

iPhone has setting to allow you to delete from server or not.



I keep mine to never.

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Old April 3rd, 2008, 12:20 AM
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Previously on alt.cellular.cingular, Larry said:

> > Learn to spell, it's "cellphone", not "sellphone". If you don't like
> > what they're selling, don't buy it.

> Why does my little updated description upset you so?


Because it's childish.

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Old April 3rd, 2008, 01:07 AM
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At 03 Apr 2008 00:09:01 +0000 Larry wrote:

> Ok by me. But, my emails have some pretty big attachments. Where do you
> put them?


I set the e-mail client on my phone not to automatically download
attachments over 100kb (then I choose whether to download them if needed.)

> How do you get them from the phone to the computer, download
> them again off the server? That time must also be included.


IMAP is server based- since my PC has broadband, it looks at the IMAP
server continually, and downloads and archives whatever makes it through
the spam filters.

> The remote terminal is far from "cumbersome" on wifi, and not really bad

on
> EVDO. rdesktop is optimized to minimize bandwidth usage. it only

updates
> what needs updating. It's not a video shot of the screen, but you knew
> that. The only drawback is the 500-800ms latency of the Sellphone data
> links, but I'll live with that until the Wimax rollout.


Whatever works for you, I guess. Remote desktop to keep on top of your e-
mail seems like using a jackhammer to drive a finishing nail, but that's
just me...



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