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Old May 23rd, 2008, 05:33 PM
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> Ah, here 'tiz. "Wireless Data Home Usage" - 21,591,929 KB


Ok, so where do you get your streaming video from? TIA


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Old May 23rd, 2008, 08:20 PM
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AA782D35E73Dnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
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> Network my ass. When's the last time you got refused a connection because
> the network was busy? They're only selling the network cheap to
> individuals because they have lots of surplus bandwidth business refuses to
> pay through the nose for and they want to recover some of the lost revenues
> letting you have 5GB/month/individual for cheap.
>
> Bandwidth went unsold when we tried to sell it by the KB, so when that
> didn't work we tried other schemes to unload something that cannot be
> stored, for less....same as any business would, not just sellular.
>


Your ass???

Yep, but what it is is you talking out of it - again. You don't have a clue.

Bandwidth and backhaul is one of the MAJOR expenses incurred by
the carriers. They write LARGE check each and every month for it.
There isn't this huge surplus you prattle on about...

What do I know? Well, since I sell bandwidth to these carriers - quite a bit.

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Old May 23rd, 2008, 08:20 PM
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"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in
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> Ok, so where do you get your streaming video from? TIA
>
>


YouTube
broadcast media
Google
Orb running on several systems I have access to
BBC
lots of other places provide streaming video...
Shoutcast
Xiph
etc.

Outside the stupid USA and it's locked up copyright system, lots of
broadcasters are online 24/7.

Jpopski TV is fun, even if you don't speak Japanese....just for the
pretty girls....
It's like MTV without the spam.

I even get Channel 11 TV from the Ukraine.
I'm on rdesktop on the tablet and can't get to the home screen to get
you the URLs. Sorry...

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Old May 24th, 2008, 12:40 AM
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"Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote in
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> Your ass???
>
> Yep, but what it is is you talking out of it - again. You don't have a
> clue.
>
> Bandwidth and backhaul is one of the MAJOR expenses incurred by
> the carriers. They write LARGE check each and every month for it.
> There isn't this huge surplus you prattle on about...
>
> What do I know? Well, since I sell bandwidth to these carriers - quite
> a bit.
>
>
>


Good! Explain to them about the bandwidth auctions.....

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Old May 24th, 2008, 02:19 AM
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AA7E9FDE722Enoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote in
> news:1bmdnYkM4NZM1KrVnZ2dnUVZ_t_inZ2d@giganews.com :
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>> Your ass???
>>
>> Yep, but what it is is you talking out of it - again. You don't have a
>> clue.
>>
>> Bandwidth and backhaul is one of the MAJOR expenses incurred by
>> the carriers. They write LARGE check each and every month for it.
>> There isn't this huge surplus you prattle on about...
>>
>> What do I know? Well, since I sell bandwidth to these carriers - quite
>> a bit.
>>
>>
>>

>
> Good! Explain to them about the bandwidth auctions.....
>
>


You mean the FREQUENCY auctions....?
I can see where you want to lead this, but sorry....
(bla bla - we the people own the airwaves, bla de bla)

All the traffic, (both voice and data) has to be transported to
a switch (backhaul) and from the switch to the PSTN and Internet- both requiring huge
amounts of - yes "bandwidth".
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Old May 24th, 2008, 10:59 AM
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"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
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> "Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in
> news:n_ydne3YALVtuqrVnZ2dnUVZ_q3inZ2d@giganews.com :
>
> > Ok, so where do you get your streaming video from? TIA
> >
> >

>
> YouTube
> broadcast media
> Google
> Orb running on several systems I have access to
> BBC
> lots of other places provide streaming video...
> Shoutcast
> Xiph
> etc.
>
> Outside the stupid USA and it's locked up copyright system, lots of
> broadcasters are online 24/7.
>
> Jpopski TV is fun, even if you don't speak Japanese....just for the
> pretty girls....
> It's like MTV without the spam.
>
> I even get Channel 11 TV from the Ukraine.
> I'm on rdesktop on the tablet and can't get to the home screen to get
> you the URLs. Sorry...


Thanks for the info and I see you didn't mention a Slingbox or did you just
forget about it?


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"Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote in
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> You mean the FREQUENCY auctions....?
> I can see where you want to lead this, but sorry....
> (bla bla - we the people own the airwaves, bla de bla)
>
>


Wrong, asshole.....we're talking about GB of DATA.

BANDWIDTH auctions are held continuously to sell unused bandwidth, which
can't be stored of course, to recover some of the costs of the bandwidth
owners.

http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freea...number=1409248

The big corporation has a nationwide bandwidth network it pays a lot of
money for. This weekend, it's virtually shutdown for the holiday so all
that bandwidth goes to waste, already paid for by the contract. So, the
big corporation sells Mom's Tire and Internet Service or Verizon Wireless
bandwidth for a bargain so Mom can maximize profits over the holiday
weekend by NOT having to buy more bandwidth to satisfy her customers'
heavy usage while they're all home on holiday.

You guys don't really think ISPs, Sellphone carriers, cable companies,
phone companies let you use all this bandwidth at home so cheap with them
paying full price for bandwidth all the time, do you. I didn't think you
were that stupid.

Unused, after hours bandwidth, the kind the consumers use on weekends and
when they get home from work, is bought and sold in online bandwidth
auctions between the carriers and bandwidth-rich corporations to level
the load. It has nothing to do with RADIO bandwidth, asshole-as-usual.

Sellphone companies are trying to increase the already horrendous profits
by limiting use of bandwidth so they don't have to buy enough to keep up
with the ever-increasing demand of streaming, VoIP, downloading, P2P,
gaming, etc. They simply forbid use or limit per customer use to some
rediculously low level to keep them from sucking at the bandwidth tit.
This lets us get $70/month X 5000 customers out of a minimal size pipe we
buy from bandwidth auctions for peanuts, except during the business day
when none or little is available and they have to pay full price. It's
not anywhere NEAR as profitable as $1,282,000/GB sold to the really
stupid SMS users at 20c for 156 bytes/message. Internet customers won't
pay that much for such little bandwidth.....no matter how omnipotent the
fat corporation thinks it is......

Bandwidth is really cheap after business hours and on weekends and
holidays....which is EXACTLY why Sellphone carriers let you talk
unlimited on digital, the same bandwidth as data uses, all day
Saturday....on bandwidth going to waste.

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Old May 24th, 2008, 10:59 AM
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"Roger 2008" <rwpcs@att.net> wrote in
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> Thanks for the info and I see you didn't mention a Slingbox or did you
> just forget about it?
>


Orb replaces Slingbox if you have a TV card in the Winbox.

Why pay quadruple for the same disk space?

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You still don't get it.

Everything you are ranting about is the overall network bandwidth.

Its the all about the BACKHAUL bandwidth to and from each tower.

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Old May 24th, 2008, 04:11 PM
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Larry wrote:
> I even get Channel 11 TV from the Ukraine.


Well there you have it. Its all those people watching
Ukrainian TV that's sucking up the bandwidth.
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