"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message news:Xns9AA862877163Cnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253...
> "Ness-Net" <richard.nodamn@nessnet.spam.com> wrote in
> news:OKKdnbG7vqJ7A6rVnZ2dnUVZ_uWdnZ2d@giganews.com :
>
>> You mean the FREQUENCY auctions....?
>> I can see where you want to lead this, but sorry....
>> (bla bla - we the people own the airwaves, bla de bla)
>>
>>
>
> Wrong, asshole.....we're talking about GB of DATA.
>
> BANDWIDTH auctions are held continuously to sell unused bandwidth, which
> can't be stored of course, to recover some of the costs of the bandwidth
> owners.
>
> http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/xpl/freea...number=1409248
>
> The big corporation has a nationwide bandwidth network it pays a lot of
> money for. This weekend, it's virtually shutdown for the holiday so all
> that bandwidth goes to waste, already paid for by the contract. So, the
> big corporation sells Mom's Tire and Internet Service or Verizon Wireless
> bandwidth for a bargain so Mom can maximize profits over the holiday
> weekend by NOT having to buy more bandwidth to satisfy her customers'
> heavy usage while they're all home on holiday.
>
> You guys don't really think ISPs, Sellphone carriers, cable companies,
> phone companies let you use all this bandwidth at home so cheap with them
> paying full price for bandwidth all the time, do you. I didn't think you
> were that stupid.
>
> Unused, after hours bandwidth, the kind the consumers use on weekends and
> when they get home from work, is bought and sold in online bandwidth
> auctions between the carriers and bandwidth-rich corporations to level
> the load. It has nothing to do with RADIO bandwidth, asshole-as-usual.
>
> Sellphone companies are trying to increase the already horrendous profits
> by limiting use of bandwidth so they don't have to buy enough to keep up
> with the ever-increasing demand of streaming, VoIP, downloading, P2P,
> gaming, etc. They simply forbid use or limit per customer use to some
> rediculously low level to keep them from sucking at the bandwidth tit.
> This lets us get $70/month X 5000 customers out of a minimal size pipe we
> buy from bandwidth auctions for peanuts, except during the business day
> when none or little is available and they have to pay full price. It's
> not anywhere NEAR as profitable as $1,282,000/GB sold to the really
> stupid SMS users at 20c for 156 bytes/message. Internet customers won't
> pay that much for such little bandwidth.....no matter how omnipotent the
> fat corporation thinks it is......
>
> Bandwidth is really cheap after business hours and on weekends and
> holidays....which is EXACTLY why Sellphone carriers let you talk
> unlimited on digital, the same bandwidth as data uses, all day
> Saturday....on bandwidth going to waste.
>
>
Sorry bucko, about as far from reality as possible. And, I don't have to
call you any names...... just show you to be totally wrong - again.
When I sell a T1, DS3, OC3/12/48/etc, or maybe a 100M or GigE pipe, they
pay for the ports AND bandwidth used on THAT pipe. Pipes used to connect
sites to switches, to build metro rings or connect switches to the PSTN. These
port charges are fixed and if the customer is paying for the entire pipe's
bandwidth capacity, this is a fixed (via contract) charge as well. No "auction".
This is the way the vast majority of the networking world works - if not all.
You are blathering on about BACKBONE bandwidth - and I'll tell you that most
is purchased the same way - ex: OC3/12/48 or 192 is $X for the ports, $X for the bandwidth.
Sign here for a 3 or 5 year term. Same for DWDM wavelengths and even lowly T1s.
You mention frame in the past - know what a CIR is? Guess what - you pay for it as well.
The CONCEPT of bandwidth auctions has been rattling around for years. Back
in 99-2000 one of the biggies in this was - ding! Enron. Where are they now??
You site a white paper on the concept - it is far from actual reality - just like you...
Larry, get a clue. 'Cause in this discussion - you haven't got even a tiny one.
Just your normal conspiracy prattlle - must be tough to be so paranoid!
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