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Old July 10th, 2008, 11:39 AM
R. F. Duffer
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This is a Verizon news group. Verizon does not have the iPhone in its
line-up of phones. Then what is it with this news group and iPHones?
Why so many iPhone postings? I guess it's time to kill-file iPhone posts.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 12:41 PM
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R. F. Duffer wrote:
> This is a Verizon news group. Verizon does not have the iPhone in its
> line-up of phones. Then what is it with this news group and iPHones?
> Why so many iPhone postings? I guess it's time to kill-file iPhone
> posts.

I, for one, don't mind. It keeps me apprised of a new device I may
eventually have an interest in, without having to check an at&t ng. What's
the difference to you? Bandwidth may be a limited resource, but it's not
unreplenishable as is, say, oil.


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Old July 10th, 2008, 01:53 PM
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Carl wrote:
> R. F. Duffer wrote:
>> This is a Verizon news group. Verizon does not have the iPhone in its
>> line-up of phones. Then what is it with this news group and iPHones?
>> Why so many iPhone postings? I guess it's time to kill-file iPhone
>> posts.

> I, for one, don't mind. It keeps me apprised of a new device I may
> eventually have an interest in, without having to check an at&t ng. What's
> the difference to you? Bandwidth may be a limited resource, but it's not
> unreplenishable as is, say, oil.
>
>

But thats why there are discrete groups. This one is
alt.cellular.verizon not alt.new.stuff or seemingly
alt.fanboi.my.electronic.device.defines.my.existen ce

I follow other stuff and subscribe to those other groups. Posts about
iphones, HDTV, mp3 players, table saw blades and dessert topping don't
belong here.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 03:00 PM
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George wrote:
> Carl wrote:
>> R. F. Duffer wrote:
>>> This is a Verizon news group. Verizon does not have the iPhone in
>>> its line-up of phones. Then what is it with this news group and
>>> iPHones? Why so many iPhone postings? I guess it's time to
>>> kill-file iPhone posts.

>> I, for one, don't mind. It keeps me apprised of a new device I may
>> eventually have an interest in, without having to check an at&t ng.
>> What's the difference to you? Bandwidth may be a limited resource,
>> but it's not unreplenishable as is, say, oil.
>>
>>

> But thats why there are discrete groups. This one is
> alt.cellular.verizon not alt.new.stuff or seemingly
> alt.fanboi.my.electronic.device.defines.my.existen ce
>
> I follow other stuff and subscribe to those other groups. Posts about
> iphones, HDTV, mp3 players, table saw blades and dessert topping don't
> belong here.
>

Point taken.


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Old July 10th, 2008, 03:00 PM
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"George" <george@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:j6ydnSqGa-6mruvVnZ2dnUVZ_uOdnZ2d@comcast.com...

> But thats why there are discrete groups. This one is alt.cellular.verizon
> not alt.new.stuff or seemingly
> alt.fanboi.my.electronic.device.defines.my.existen ce
>
> I follow other stuff and subscribe to those other groups. Posts about
> iphones, HDTV, mp3 players, table saw blades and dessert topping don't
> belong here.


Agreed 100%. But have you TRIED that new chocolate whipped cream from
Redi-Whip? Mmmmmmm....



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Old July 10th, 2008, 03:00 PM
Richard B. Gilbert
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George wrote:
> Carl wrote:
>> R. F. Duffer wrote:
>>> This is a Verizon news group. Verizon does not have the iPhone in its
>>> line-up of phones. Then what is it with this news group and iPHones?
>>> Why so many iPhone postings? I guess it's time to kill-file iPhone
>>> posts.

>> I, for one, don't mind. It keeps me apprised of a new device I may
>> eventually have an interest in, without having to check an at&t ng.
>> What's the difference to you? Bandwidth may be a limited resource, but
>> it's not unreplenishable as is, say, oil.
>>
>>

> But thats why there are discrete groups. This one is
> alt.cellular.verizon not alt.new.stuff or seemingly
> alt.fanboi.my.electronic.device.defines.my.existen ce
>
> I follow other stuff and subscribe to those other groups. Posts about
> iphones, HDTV, mp3 players, table saw blades and dessert topping don't
> belong here.


You're right!

But I don't expect anything to change. . . . <sigh>
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Old July 10th, 2008, 07:37 PM
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George wrote:
> Carl wrote:
>> R. F. Duffer wrote:
>>> This is a Verizon news group. Verizon does not have the iPhone in its
>>> line-up of phones. Then what is it with this news group and iPHones?
>>> Why so many iPhone postings? I guess it's time to kill-file iPhone
>>> posts.

>> I, for one, don't mind. It keeps me apprised of a new device I may
>> eventually have an interest in, without having to check an at&t ng.
>> What's the difference to you? Bandwidth may be a limited resource, but
>> it's not unreplenishable as is, say, oil.
>>
>>

> But thats why there are discrete groups. This one is
> alt.cellular.verizon not alt.new.stuff or seemingly
> alt.fanboi.my.electronic.device.defines.my.existen ce
>
> I follow other stuff and subscribe to those other groups. Posts about
> iphones, HDTV, mp3 players, table saw blades and dessert topping don't
> belong here.


The 3G iPhone is both a mobile phone _AND_ a dessert topping.
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Old July 10th, 2008, 07:37 PM
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"Carl" <crothman@NOSPAMoptonline.net> wrote in
news:48762a1b$0$11636$607ed4bc@cv.net:

> R. F. Duffer wrote:
>> This is a Verizon news group. Verizon does not have the iPhone in
>> its line-up of phones. Then what is it with this news group and
>> iPHones? Why so many iPhone postings? I guess it's time to kill-file
>> iPhone posts.

> I, for one, don't mind. It keeps me apprised of a new device I may
> eventually have an interest in, without having to check an at&t ng.
> What's the difference to you? Bandwidth may be a limited resource, but
> it's not unreplenishable as is, say, oil.
>
>
>


The Verizon fanbois are afraid someone might churn...??

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Old July 10th, 2008, 09:22 PM
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On 2008-07-10, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> The Verizon fanbois are afraid someone might churn...??


I can't stand Verizon. But I hate AT&T more.

Verizon Wireless was just stupid when I was a customer, Verizon's
landline division was stupid when I was a customer of theirs, and it
annoys the holy hell out of me that my boss pays for a business DSL line
with Verizon Online and they refuse to provide any tech support beyond
making sure the DSL circuit is working. (Yes, that is their STATED policy.)

But AT&T (as SBC, formerly Ameritech, formerly Ohio Bell Telephone, back in
2001) actively tried to steal from me. (Don't break my landline and DSL and
take weeks to fix them and then claim you're only going to credit me $5 for
almost $200 worth of services that were never provided.)

So, I will never use AT&T for anything. Therefore, the iPhone posts are useless
to me.

Besides, the iPhone isn't my cup of tea anyhow. If I was going to buy
something from an Apple, it wouldn't be an iPhone or an overPriced
iPod. :) It'd be a Macbook, most likely (I must admit to liking the
current crop of Macs).

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Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
Geek-for-hire. Details: http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevesobol

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Old July 11th, 2008, 12:11 AM
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Steve Sobol <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
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> Besides, the iPhone isn't my cup of tea anyhow.


http://live.ifixit.com/images/2a.jpg

Take a look at the 3G board. This is the best picture of it 1.2M so far.

The RF circuits for the PHONE are up by the DO NOT REMOVE label upper left
with 3 diplexers at the top, the receiver under them and transmitter Sky
chip amp under them. BUT NO GPS!

It's really hard to get a GPS fix anywhere WITHOUT some GPS chips to
receive it!....hee hee.

The Iphone is the bottom half with an ARM processor. The big chips are
memory to the right of the radio stuff.

I'm more interested in the hardware than the software toys that run on it.

Someone said it cost them $137 per unit, complete in the box. I believe
that.

The pullapart was done instantly in NZ tonight at launch:
http://live.ifixit.com/Guide/First-Look/iPhone3G
Sure is made cheaply....

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