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Old March 27th, 2009
Richard B. Gilbert
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Default Using a cell phone modem with Hyperterm

David wrote:
> This is not a handshake problem. It is a dialing problem. When you type
> "ATDTxxxxxxxxxx" on a Hayes compatible modem, it dials. (where
> xxxxxxxxxx is the telephone number)
>
> Here's the story. I got rid of my land line. Now I can't use my old Zoom
> 2949L and Hyperterm to connect to the VT100 port anymore. So I am trying
> to use the modem in my cell phone with Hyperterm. I have been using
> Hyperterm with my land line to access this VT100 port for over 10 years
> without a problem. Now I have only a cell phone and no land line.
>
> As far as modems go, this should work. But when I type "ATDTxxxxxxxxxx"
> in Hyperterm I immediately get "ERROR" as the response. This same
> command worked fine with my land line and the Zoom modem.
>
> I have tried typing ATX0 <CR> and get an "OK" followed by ATDTxxxxxxxxxx
> <CR>, but just get ERROR in response.
>
> Keep in mind that the cell modem does respond to some AT commands, but
> not the one I need to dial out.
>
> I just want to know what AT command I need to use to dial out...and one
> that works with this cell phone.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> David
>
>


"ATDT" is a Hayes modem standard which most dialup modems recognize.
Your cell phone, however, is NOT a Hayes modem and it appears that it's
not Hayes compatible either. I'm sure your cell phone came with some
sort of instructions. Time to read an follow them!
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Old March 27th, 2009
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"David" <*.*> wrote in message news:gqig6m0196p@news2.newsguy.com...

> Just FYI, the host is an old AlphaMicro running on Pick64+...not Windows,
> and no USB ports. It has many serial ports connected to RS-232 dumb
> terminals. All that has been done to allow for remote access is that a
> RS-232 modem was used instead of a terminal to access the host. The host
> uses a VT100 driver written for Pick64+. Yes, this is very old stuff...pre
> 90's. But the amazing thing is that it still works! My problem is trying
> to get the new technology to work with the old... <sigh...> I appreciate
> you trying to help. Thanks.
>
>


then don't change anything on the host end, it works with a land line or
rs232 cable, at your cell phone/hyper term/end you will have to change the
hyperterm settings to set the max baud rate/vt100 emulation/parity stop
bits/etc

for a how to do it see
2.1. Using hyperterm as a serial console
http://www.simtec.co.uk/products/SWA...hyperterm.html

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Old March 28th, 2009
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At 26 Mar 2009 22:06:26 -0400 David wrote:
> This is not a handshake problem. It is a dialing problem. When
> you type "ATDTxxxxxxxxxx" on a Hayes compatible modem,
> it dials. (where xxxxxxxxxx is the telephone number)
>
> Here's the story. I got rid of my land line. Now I can't use my
> old Zoom 2949L and Hyperterm to connect to the VT100 port
> anymore. So I am trying to use the modem in my cell phone
> with Hyperterm. I have been using Hyperterm with my land line
> to access this VT100 port for over 10 years without a problem.
> Now I have only a cell phone and no land line...


<snip>


Is it possible that Verizon has disabled CSD ("dial up") functionality on
that phone?

For starters, no digital cellular phone reallyhas a "modem" in the
traditional sense. The phone sends and receives data packets to/from
your wireless carrier, who makes the actual "modem" connection to the
outside world for you. This is called CSD (Circuit Switched Data.) For
it to work, your device has to support it, and the carrier has to accept
CSD connections. Verizon still accepts them, AFAIK, since I use it on my
PagePlus account (a prepaid reseller of Verizon service.)

Since CSD is such an old data standard- it's slow (14.4k max), and
bandwidth wasting (a CSD call hogs the space of a phone call on the
network whether you're actively transmitting data or not, while newer
packet data transfer methods consume no network resourses when idle)
Verizon had disabled it in most phones they've sold in the last several
years.



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Old March 29th, 2009
David
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Default Using a cell phone modem with Hyperterm

"Todd Allcock" <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in message:

> Is it possible that Verizon has disabled CSD ("dial up") functionality on
> that phone?
>
> For starters, no digital cellular phone reallyhas a "modem" in the
> traditional sense. The phone sends and receives data packets to/from
> your wireless carrier, who makes the actual "modem" connection to the
> outside world for you. This is called CSD (Circuit Switched Data.) For
> it to work, your device has to support it, and the carrier has to accept
> CSD connections. Verizon still accepts them, AFAIK, since I use it on my
> PagePlus account (a prepaid reseller of Verizon service.)
>
> Since CSD is such an old data standard- it's slow (14.4k max), and
> bandwidth wasting (a CSD call hogs the space of a phone call on the
> network whether you're actively transmitting data or not, while newer
> packet data transfer methods consume no network resourses when idle)
> Verizon had disabled it in most phones they've sold in the last several
> years.


Thanks for the info, Todd. This could be why I cannot dial out. Time to call
Verizon.

David

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Old March 30th, 2009
Richard B. Gilbert
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David wrote:
> This is not a handshake problem. It is a dialing problem. When you type
> "ATDTxxxxxxxxxx" on a Hayes compatible modem, it dials. (where
> xxxxxxxxxx is the telephone number)
>
> Here's the story. I got rid of my land line. Now I can't use my old Zoom
> 2949L and Hyperterm to connect to the VT100 port anymore. So I am trying
> to use the modem in my cell phone with Hyperterm. I have been using
> Hyperterm with my land line to access this VT100 port for over 10 years
> without a problem. Now I have only a cell phone and no land line.
>
> As far as modems go, this should work. But when I type "ATDTxxxxxxxxxx"
> in Hyperterm I immediately get "ERROR" as the response. This same
> command worked fine with my land line and the Zoom modem.
>
> I have tried typing ATX0 <CR> and get an "OK" followed by ATDTxxxxxxxxxx
> <CR>, but just get ERROR in response.
>
> Keep in mind that the cell modem does respond to some AT commands, but
> not the one I need to dial out.
>
> I just want to know what AT command I need to use to dial out...and one
> that works with this cell phone.
>
> Thanks again,
>
> David
>
>


"ATDT" is a Hayes modem standard which most dialup modems recognize.
Your cell phone, however, is NOT a Hayes modem and it appears that it's
not Hayes compatible either. I'm sure your cell phone came with some
sort of instructions. Time to read an follow them!
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