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Old November 16th, 2009
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My First Week With DROID Posted by Jason Perlow ZD NET
One of the first things I noticed is when I tried to pull data off my
device, in particular photos and videos which are stored on the Micro-
SD card. If you’re a Windows 7 user, the first thing you’ll want to do
is get a Micro-SD card adapter and reader for your PC, because you’ll
go absolutely nuts trying to make Windows 7 see it over a USB
connection.

If he had chosen an iPhone Jason would enjoy seamless USB moving of
videos and photos to and from the iPhone using iTunes on either a Mac
or PC. The iPhone doesn't need an easily lost Micro-SD card or extra
cost reader like the Droid.

--
My First Week With DROID Posted by Jason Perlow ZD NET
If you are used to a BlackBerry and are considering a DROID or other
Android-based touchscreen smartphone, be aware that you really cannot
use an Android device one-handed. The interface is definitely tactile,
so if you are used to thumbing around like you can on a BlackBerry,
and loved the speed in which you could get to your core applications,
be prepared to slow down a little.

Ah the iPhone experienced users can operate easily it one handed. I
have even entered text while using my left hand for something else.

--
My First Week With DROID Posted by Jason Perlow ZD NET
You have to get used to the fact that you are not going to be
“Syncing” the DROID with your PC or Mac, all your data essentially
lives in Google-land.

Ouch, Jason will be dead in th water every time Google has an
outage.
The iPhone syncs with your computer and is automatically backed up
every time you connect it via USB. Apple also stores all your purchase
history on their servers, so if your Windows PC is eaten alive by
viruses and you have to reinstall Windows you do not have to pay for
your applications or any other iPhone content all over again. That is
another huge benefit of the Apple store compared to any would be
contender.

--

My First Week With DROID Posted by Jason Perlow ZD NET
In order to do a file transfer, I had to load the Android SDK in a
Linux virtual machine connected to the USB resources of my Windows 7
system and use the Java-based debugging/developer GUI, which is not
something your regular end-user should ever have to do. Google really
needs to get some decent PC and Mac driver and basic sync/transfer
software.

How many iPhone users want to fire up Linux inside of windows 7 to do
file transfer? The Droid is a hackers wet dream in that they can
diddle around for hours to do something that is so simple with the
iPhone.
I can feel the Droid love.
And this is an iPhone killer?

--
My First Week With DROID Posted by Jason Perlow ZD NET
Other annoyances include erratic Bluetooth connections (I kept
disconnecting from my Jawbone 2 for no apparent reason until I
rebooted the device) and a limitation in the current Android 2.0
software which prevents you from using your Bluetooth headset with the
Voice Dial and Voice Search.

And some wit suggested Bluetooth was the answer for the flaky speakers
already reported to be failing in the Droid? Who wnats to sleep with a
Bluetooth headset in their ear just to be sure to hear an alarm clock
or telephone call while on a trip? I know, I know, a Geek would.

--
My First Week With DROID Posted by Jason Perlow ZD NET
The DROID’s camera, while high-resolution (5MP) and capable of
recording video, is somewhat quirky and has serious focusing issues,
particularly in low-light conditions such as inside a restaurant.
Closeup photos are also a bit of a challenge. If you were thinking of
using the DROID as your primary camera, don’t bother. I suspect the
issue is entirely software related to the “Camera” application or the
camera’s embedded Linux servomotor driver/firmware, which will
hopefully be resolved soon, but I intend on keeping my trusty Canon G7
in my travel bag until it gets fixed.

Could this be a strong clue as to why the iPhone takes better photos
and videos than the Verizon Droid?

--
My First Week With DROID Posted by Jason Perlow ZD NET
Even with these quirks, I am really enjoying my DROID purchase...

We too feel your Droid love Jason. If you also want to share in
Jason's love head over to your nearest Verizon store and sign up for a
new two year Verizon wireless contract and you can have a shinny new
Droid for Xmas for only $200 (net after rebate) plus $70 to $100 a
month,

-
http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-17924...g=content;col1











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"Verizon Wireless now charges up to $350 early termination fees per phone
on your account" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:583ce7a0-e06f-466a-
9146-7cfa185ff4a2@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:

> If he had chosen an iPhone Jason would enjoy seamless USB moving of
> videos and photos to and from the iPhone using iTunes on either a Mac
> or PC. The iPhone doesn't need an easily lost Micro-SD card or extra
> cost reader like the Droid.
>
>


How horrible to have easily removeable memory cards making your total
memory infinite. Oh, wait, that isn't new. My MotoROKR Z6m sellphone does
that. It's how I select which kind of music I want.

I don't know about MACs, but PCs have microSD readers built right into
them. Even my netbook reads them with the little free SD adapter the card
came with. Is that what you mean?

Of course, this wouldn't work with the 1980's style "syncing" like an old
Palm Pilot controlling content.

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On Nov 16, 10:35*am, Larry <no...@home.com> wrote:
> "Verizon Wireless now charges up to $350 early termination fees per phone



> Of course, this wouldn't work with the 1980's style "syncing" like an old
> Palm Pilot controlling content.
>
> --
> Larry


More Droid Love Just In 3:33 PM EST 10-16-09

Droid Users Ask: Can You Hear Me Now?
from Gadget Lab by Priya Ganapati

Verizon Wireless’ vaunted network may not be paying off for some users
of the Droid, who are complaining about problems with call quality on
their smartphones.

“There’s a problem with echo on the phone so when someone calls you,
to them it sounds like they are having a conversation with
themselves,” says Heath Brashier, a Baton Rouge, Louisiana-based
software developer who bought his Droid, which is manufactured by
Motorola, just about a week ago. “It’s happened to me twice so far.”

Similar complaints have been posted on Motorola’s support forums,
where people have posted dozens of comments saying that their voice
sounds ‘tinny’ and ‘clipped.’ Some subscribers have found a way quick
DIY fix to the problem: Quickly turning the speaker phone on the
device on and off makes the echo go away, they say. Others suggest
rebooting the phone.
Verizon
“We stand behind our products,” says the spokesperson. “Customers have
a 30-day return and exchange policy if they are not happy with their
phone.”
__

Generally I have heard the Droid speaker is randomly failing all over
the place with total silence where there should have been audio. The
above suggested fixes work and if you complain Verizon and Motorola
will give you another Droid to keep you locked in during the grace
period. Who is to say the new Droid will not be failure prone too?

===


Droid Users Ask: Can You Hear Me Now?
from Gadget Lab by Priya Ganapati

Separately, a Wired.com reader said in an email note that Droid’s Wi-
Fi connectivity can be unreliable. While the phone connects to a Wi-Fi
network, it doesn’t always connect to the internet from there. It’s no
clear if that’s a problem with just a few phones or a more widespread
issue among Droid devices.
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At 16 Nov 2009 04:41:05 -0800 Vic wrote:
> My First Week With DROID Posted by Jason Perlow ZD NET
> One of the first things I noticed is when I tried to pull data off my
> device, in particular photos and videos which are stored on the Micro-
> SD card. If you’re a Windows 7 user, the first thing you’ll wantto do
> is get a Micro-SD card adapter and reader for your PC, because you’ll
> go absolutely nuts trying to make Windows 7 see it over a USB
> connection.


Having a reader for removable media always makes sense- it's typically
faster than hooking up a device and dealing with sync software. I've
never, for example, hooked any of my digital cameras to my computer to
drag files via the camera's USB cable. Pop out card, quickly copy,
reinsert card, get on with your life.

> If he had chosen an iPhone Jason would enjoy seamless USB moving of
> videos and photos to and from the iPhone using iTunes on either a Mac
> or PC. The iPhone doesn't need an easily lost Micro-SD card or extra
> cost reader like the Droid.



True. But it does need a computer with iTunes. That limits the number
ofcomputers you can copy stuff to- if I want to transfer photos or videos
to a friend's computer, asking him to install a few dozen MBs of sync
software first is a bit of an imposition!



> My First Week With DROID Posted by Jason Perlow ZD NET
> You have to get used to the fact that you are not going to be
> “Syncing” the DROID with your PC or Mac, all your data essentially
> lives in Google-land.
>
> Ouch, Jason will be dead in th water every time Google has an
> outage.
> The iPhone syncs with your computer and is automatically backed up
> every time you connect it via USB. Apple also stores all your purchase
> history on their servers, so if your Windows PC is eaten alive by
> viruses and you have to reinstall Windows you do not have to pay for
> your applications or any other iPhone content all over again. That is
> another huge benefit of the Apple store compared to any would be
> contender.



How is that an "advantage" when it requires access to your designated
"sync computer?" Cloud-based sync advantages certainly outweigh the
disadvantages, as evidenced by the feature's extra cost (MobileMe) on the
iPhone.


> My First Week With DROID Posted by Jason Perlow ZD NET
> In order to do a file transfer, I had to load the Android SDK in a
> Linux virtual machine connected to the USB resources of my Windows 7
> system and use the Java-based debugging/developer GUI, which is not
> something your regular end-user should ever have to do. Google really
> needs to get some decent PC and Mac driver and basic sync/transfer
> software.
>
> How many iPhone users want to fire up Linux inside of windows 7 to do
> file transfer? The Droid is a hackers wet dream in that they can
> diddle around for hours to do something that is so simple with the
> iPhone.
> I can feel the Droid love.
> And this is an iPhone killer?


Like the iPhone or any platform, the Android platform has its own set of
limitations. Why is this guy hacking his way into forcing USB file
transfer when he can do it via removable storage? Simple- he's tryingto
make it work like he THINKS it should, instead of how it actually works,
which I'm constantly told is a Bad Idea(tm) by the Apple Corps here when
I ask why I can't, say, drag and drop files to/from an iPhone.


> Could this be a strong clue as to why the iPhone takes better photos
> and videos than the Verizon Droid?



While that may be true, I've yet to find a cell phone camera, including
the iPhone's, worth bragging about. "It sucks less than the others!" is
hardly the stuff catchy slogans are made of!


> My First Week With DROID Posted by Jason Perlow ZD NET
> Even with these quirks, I am really enjoying my DROID purchase...



And that's the bottom line. All the various mobile platforms have their
advantages and disadvantages. Why not just enjoy your iPhone, Vic?
Serious competition will only make Apple work that much harder to keep
improving it, rather than just sitting on their laurels.


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On 11/16/09 9:35 AM, in article Xns9CC56BB22AE6Enoonehomecom@74.209.131.13,
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote:

> "Verizon Wireless now charges up to $350 early termination fees per phone
> on your account" <vic.healey@gmail.com> wrote in news:583ce7a0-e06f-466a-
> 9146-7cfa185ff4a2@b15g2000yqd.googlegroups.com:
>
>> If he had chosen an iPhone Jason would enjoy seamless USB moving of
>> videos and photos to and from the iPhone using iTunes on either a Mac
>> or PC. The iPhone doesn't need an easily lost Micro-SD card or extra
>> cost reader like the Droid.
>>
>>

>
> How horrible to have easily removeable memory cards making your total
> memory infinite. Oh, wait, that isn't new. My MotoROKR Z6m sellphone does
> that. It's how I select which kind of music I want.
>
> I don't know about MACs, but PCs have microSD readers built right into
> them. Even my netbook reads them with the little free SD adapter the card
> came with. Is that what you mean?
>
> Of course, this wouldn't work with the 1980's style "syncing" like an old
> Palm Pilot controlling content.

You should not really be so bitter because you sold you AAPL in 2005.

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George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in news:C7276104.388DA%
ghost_topper@hotmail.com:

> You should not really be so bitter because you sold you AAPL in 2005.
>
>


Your concept of how stock is traded by daytraders is way off. We'd
NEVER hold a stock LONG! That's just suicide. Only the suckers "hold"
stock and are loyal to the corporations. They're the ones jumping out
of windows....

I have missed the opportunity to do a little AAPL trading since its $85
bottom the week of March 2. I don't trade expensive stocks very often,
anyway. Money multiplies when a $2.12 stock mysteriously rises to $6.83
on a rumor some big bank is going to buy this bankrupt little bank.
Notice how the multiplier here is 3.22. If AAPL were $100/share, for
similar short-term performance, it's price would have to go to $322 to
match the profit margin of the failed bank. That's just not going to
happen to an expensive stock very often. If you nervously punched the
button for $5000 worth of Harper Valley PTA at 2.12 and it jumped to
just $6.83 by Monday when you guessed WRONGLY it wouldn't go any higher,
your $5000 only became $16,100 (when it could have been over $20K).
This kind of thing happens in DAYS to really cheap stock, not months or
years like AAPL. You could starve by then!

Well Fargo did me a big favor this past year bailing out the failed
Wachovia Bank from Charlotte. I bought Wachovia for only 98c/share the
day it crashed hard, figuring someone would want all those customers and
locations throughout the South. By Friday Wells-Fargo was offering me
$7/share, IF the deal went through, but I wanted to sleep that weekend,
so I dumped it on Friday afternoon at $6.93. My initial investment of
$10K, which pretty much wiped my account dry on this hunch, became
$70,714 that week, wiping out my Social Security checks for several
years after they found out about it....(c;]

I'm only bitter I worked 50 years as an electronics technician, an
honest work, when I could have made MUCH MUCH better money and lived far
better all those years if I sat on my ass in front of this screen and
played with the keys...fixing nothing, contributing nothing to the well
being of the country.

AAPL's too slow, too expensive. It should have been split many times in
the past to a more reasonable price that didn't carry with it the
psychological baggage of being a major investment to the investing
masses. Wall Street loves it because it rises slowly to sell lots of
shares they suck off the commissions from, then crashes hard at regular
intervals causing the suckers to dump it cheap so the cycle can repeat.
Remember when it WAS $194 Dec 3, 2007, then dropped to $124 Feb 11,
2008? Lots of people panicked and lost their ass...LONG INVESTORS.
Then, it recovered to $181 in May and crashed 3 times in 3 weeks to $82
and stayed there from the 2nd week in October to the 2nd week in March.
That must have been just devastating to someone holding on for dear life
to AAPL as during that dark period It didn't appear it was ever going up
again....but it came back as the LIES on TV of a "recovery" kept being
pounded into their heads. I could have bought in March under $100 but
the multipler to today is only 2X what you paid for it because it's SO
expensive. No thanks. Panic sets in to these expensive stocks way too
often when something in the economy glitches....except, of course,
Warren's Berkshire-Hathaway at $101,000+/share, even after he bought the
huge railroad...just so he could drive the train...(c;]

I'm a little guy playing penny stocks. It's very addictive, much more
than a casino where you're guaranteed to lose your ass. Here, you can
actually win regularly if you're attentive.

I'm not very scientific, though. I like to gamble. Otherwise I'd just
follow these guys around:
http://www.daytradingradio.com/
who daytrade very scientifically over a wide range with great results.
On the webpage are his trades and earnings. Take a look. He fails just
like I do, at times. But, he wins a lot more often using scientific
methods you can learn by simply watching him trade when the market opens
in the morning. He even lets you watch for free, hoping to sell you
more. Great fun to listen to while you lose your ass or win....(c;]


--
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http://radio.daytradingradio.com:8000/listen.pls

There's a trader's conference in Las Vegas the daytrader is attending.
He's broadcasting what he's hearing you may like to listen to from his
radio station all night. It's on right now. Too bad it's not TV...

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On 11/16/09 11:13 PM, in article Xns9CC62522E5E7noonehomecom@74.209.131.13,
"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote:

> George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> wrote in news:C7276104.388DA%
> ghost_topper@hotmail.com:
>
>> You should not really be so bitter because you sold you AAPL in 2005.
>>
>>

>
> Your concept of how stock is traded by daytraders is way off. We'd
> NEVER hold a stock LONG! That's just suicide. Only the suckers "hold"
> stock and are loyal to the corporations. They're the ones jumping out
> of windows....
>
> I have missed the opportunity to do a little AAPL trading since its $85
> bottom the week of March 2. I don't trade expensive stocks very often,
> anyway. Money multiplies when a $2.12 stock mysteriously rises to $6.83
> on a rumor some big bank is going to buy this bankrupt little bank.
> Notice how the multiplier here is 3.22. If AAPL were $100/share, for
> similar short-term performance, it's price would have to go to $322 to
> match the profit margin of the failed bank. That's just not going to
> happen to an expensive stock very often. If you nervously punched the
> button for $5000 worth of Harper Valley PTA at 2.12 and it jumped to
> just $6.83 by Monday when you guessed WRONGLY it wouldn't go any higher,
> your $5000 only became $16,100 (when it could have been over $20K).
> This kind of thing happens in DAYS to really cheap stock, not months or
> years like AAPL. You could starve by then!
>
> Well Fargo did me a big favor this past year bailing out the failed
> Wachovia Bank from Charlotte. I bought Wachovia for only 98c/share the
> day it crashed hard, figuring someone would want all those customers and
> locations throughout the South. By Friday Wells-Fargo was offering me
> $7/share, IF the deal went through, but I wanted to sleep that weekend,
> so I dumped it on Friday afternoon at $6.93. My initial investment of
> $10K, which pretty much wiped my account dry on this hunch, became
> $70,714 that week, wiping out my Social Security checks for several
> years after they found out about it....(c;]
>
> I'm only bitter I worked 50 years as an electronics technician, an
> honest work, when I could have made MUCH MUCH better money and lived far
> better all those years if I sat on my ass in front of this screen and
> played with the keys...fixing nothing, contributing nothing to the well
> being of the country.
>
> AAPL's too slow, too expensive. It should have been split many times in
> the past to a more reasonable price that didn't carry with it the
> psychological baggage of being a major investment to the investing
> masses. Wall Street loves it because it rises slowly to sell lots of
> shares they suck off the commissions from, then crashes hard at regular
> intervals causing the suckers to dump it cheap so the cycle can repeat.
> Remember when it WAS $194 Dec 3, 2007, then dropped to $124 Feb 11,
> 2008? Lots of people panicked and lost their ass...LONG INVESTORS.
> Then, it recovered to $181 in May and crashed 3 times in 3 weeks to $82
> and stayed there from the 2nd week in October to the 2nd week in March.
> That must have been just devastating to someone holding on for dear life
> to AAPL as during that dark period It didn't appear it was ever going up
> again....but it came back as the LIES on TV of a "recovery" kept being
> pounded into their heads. I could have bought in March under $100 but
> the multipler to today is only 2X what you paid for it because it's SO
> expensive. No thanks. Panic sets in to these expensive stocks way too
> often when something in the economy glitches....except, of course,
> Warren's Berkshire-Hathaway at $101,000+/share, even after he bought the
> huge railroad...just so he could drive the train...(c;]
>
> I'm a little guy playing penny stocks. It's very addictive, much more
> than a casino where you're guaranteed to lose your ass. Here, you can
> actually win regularly if you're attentive.
>
> I'm not very scientific, though. I like to gamble. Otherwise I'd just
> follow these guys around:
> http://www.daytradingradio.com/
> who daytrade very scientifically over a wide range with great results.
> On the webpage are his trades and earnings. Take a look. He fails just
> like I do, at times. But, he wins a lot more often using scientific
> methods you can learn by simply watching him trade when the market opens
> in the morning. He even lets you watch for free, hoping to sell you
> more. Great fun to listen to while you lose your ass or win....(c;]
>

Tell all that to Warren Buffet. I'm sure he will take your advice, Lar.

(I know it impressed the gals at the Waffle House, tho...)

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Verizon Wireless now charges up to $350 early termination fees per phone
on your account wrote:

> If he had chosen an iPhone Jason would enjoy seamless USB moving of
> videos and photos to and from the iPhone using iTunes on either a Mac
> or PC.


And he has to put up with iTunes, all it's crap istalling everything
Apple ever invented and HAS to keep QuickTime. iTunes is one of teh most
invasive applications I've ever used.

> The iPhone doesn't need an easily lost Micro-SD card or extra
> cost reader like the Droid.



OMG! Are you a complete idiot? "Oh I choose a closed 16 or 32GB
instead of an SD card that would give me an infinite amount of memory
space because some moron might be capable of losing it." Yeah, that's a
solid piece of advice. I used a Moto L7 for a couple of years and never
lost the card, and it was easily accessable, unlike the one on the Droid.

--
..



Well, it was important enough for several folks to
comment on. Fortunately, they were not burdened
by Microsoft shitware which fails to properly
implement a decade-old standard. - Sam
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In article <hefbcb$u2g$1@posting2.glorb.com>, WindsorFox
<windsor.fox.usenet@gmail.com> wrote:

> OMG! Are you a complete idiot? "Oh I choose a closed 16 or 32GB
> instead of an SD card that would give me an infinite amount of memory
> space because some moron might be capable of losing it." Yeah, that's a
> solid piece of advice. I used a Moto L7 for a couple of years and never
> lost the card, and it was easily accessable, unlike the one on the Droid.


most users don't fill 16 gig, why would they care to have an infinite
amount of storage?
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