On 2007-03-10, The Other Funk <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote:
> Finding the keyboard operational
> Larry entered:
>> Installed in the bag or in the car, it runs 3 WATTS on 800, 2 WATTS
>> on 1900 Mhz...instead of the mambypamby crap toyphones .15 watts,
>> which goes nowhere in the country.
>> Larry
> 1900 Mhz analog is offered in very, very small areas and nowhere in th
> continental US, as far as I know. Plus once you go to digital, you are back
> to 150 mW.
> Also, once you have started a call, the base station is controling the power
> output of the phone.
The phone will also drive those power outputs running digital modes.
Power control is good. If you are close to a tower it saves your battery
to run at no greater output power than you need to talk. The difference
is that, with a 200 mW phone, once you get out far enough that the phone
is running 200 mW output you can go no further. With a 2W phone you
can keep going until you are 3 or 4 times that distance, assuming you
can still see the tower and the tower is prepared to use the same power
to talk back to you (which is the only thing which might limit the utility
of this).
I believe 3W digitial will get even better range than 3W AMPS as long
as the digital service at the tower is prepared to match you.
In article <Xns98EFC4A61BEFCnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>, Larry wrote:
> Not in my experience. Talking on AMPS, you can find a hotspot where the
> receiver hears a minimal amount of multipath cancellation, which also
> results in the best place to park the transmitter. On any digital scheme,
> you can't hear the hotspot, it just drops out and finding the hotspot is
> much harder.
How much opportunity do you get to test this? The operators aren't
likely to be running the towers at the higher poweer levels, are they?
(I wish they would!)
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Dennis Ferguson <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in
news:slrnev6gbe.8c.dcferguson@akit-ferguson.com:
> I believe 3W digitial will get even better range than 3W AMPS as long
> as the digital service at the tower is prepared to match you.
>
>
Not in my experience. Talking on AMPS, you can find a hotspot where the
receiver hears a minimal amount of multipath cancellation, which also
results in the best place to park the transmitter. On any digital scheme,
you can't hear the hotspot, it just drops out and finding the hotspot is
much harder.
"Can you hear me now?"....must have started on AMPS...(c;
Larry
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Finding the keyboard operational
Dennis Ferguson entered:
> On 2007-03-10, The Other Funk <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote:
>> Finding the keyboard operational
>> Larry entered:
>>> Installed in the bag or in the car, it runs 3 WATTS on 800, 2 WATTS
>>> on 1900 Mhz...instead of the mambypamby crap toyphones .15 watts,
>>> which goes nowhere in the country.
>>> Larry
>> 1900 Mhz analog is offered in very, very small areas and nowhere in
>> th continental US, as far as I know. Plus once you go to digital,
>> you are back to 150 mW.
>> Also, once you have started a call, the base station is controling
>> the power output of the phone.
>
> Dennis Ferguson
I've been out of the business for a couple of years now so maybe I
mis-remember this but I thought that the FCC set the output power limit for
digital at 200mW.
Bob
"Steven J. Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in
news:slrnev6jht.5hi.sjsobol@amethyst.justthe.net:
> How much opportunity do you get to test this? The operators aren't
> likely to be running the towers at the higher poweer levels, are they?
> (I wish they would!)
>
>
Who knows what the truth is any more. This goddamned monster bagphone is
just a disguised V60 in a huge box with the SAME OUTPUT POWER.
Man I'm pissed....screwed again by another cellular company.
The sooner Wimax happens across the planet, the better....
Larry
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How much price inflation is caused by illegal
aliens gobbling up goods and services, creating
shortages for the natives? I heard 40%!
"The Other Funk" <bobbie@moondoggie.com> wrote in
news:qPJIh.3913$vb.461@trndny04:
> I've been out of the business for a couple of years now so maybe I
> mis-remember this but I thought that the FCC set the output power
> limit for digital at 200mW.
> Bob
>
>
Nope.... 3 watts on 800 Mhz, 2 watts on 1900 Mhz. The little power amps
don't care what the modulation scheme fed to the FM transmitter is.
They're FCC approved for those power levels....
Of course, on digital this is just the maximum power output when your
signal is too weak to level it with the other users. The difference is
if you're running a 3W max transmitter, other cells can hear you and
reduce loading revenues.
Tough shit....put up more towers in the COUNTRY.
Larry
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aliens gobbling up goods and services, creating
shortages for the natives? I heard 40%!
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 20:16:37 -0500, "Tommy" <nwppt@bestweb.net> wrote:
>Can anyone recommend a cell phone with verizon so I can have analog also.
>Tri mode ?? LG does not have any I think? . Motorola 325i has but not sure
>it is as good as LG. I do not care if the camera is not as good as long as
>the reception is great. Thanks to all
>
the moto v710 is a tri-mode phone. i have 2 and they are fine. the
710's are not a current phone but they can be had on eBay.
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 17:37:57 +0000 (UTC), "Steven J. Sobol"
<sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:
>In article <4oWdnVV0zrU-Bm_YnZ2dnUVZ_rWnnZ2d@insightbb.com>, jdoe wrote:
>> What for? Analog will be gone soon so who cares?
>
>Verizon won't have it any more.
>
>Several rural carriers need it and are continuing to use it.
>
>If you never leave the big cities, it probably makes no difference
>whether your phone has analog capability or not.
and that's the point. we leave the urban areas behind between 4-6
months each year. i read somewhere where VZW will be dropping analog
from their towers fairly soon but we're hoping that the smaller, rural
systems will continue to provide analong coverage.
Steven J. Sobol wrote:
> In article <4oWdnVV0zrU-Bm_YnZ2dnUVZ_rWnnZ2d@insightbb.com>, jdoe wrote:
>> What for? Analog will be gone soon so who cares?
>
> Verizon won't have it any more.
I routinely travel in 5 states and have had a digital only phone for
over 2 years and have never had issues. At least it the areas I travel
(which include a lot of sparsely populated areas) there have been
significant system buildouts.
>
> Several rural carriers need it and are continuing to use it.
Even the little mom & pop RSA that is in the corner of my state lit up
digital about 2 years ago and have added a bunch of cell sites.
>
> If you never leave the big cities, it probably makes no difference
> whether your phone has analog capability or not.
>
Tri Mode
Linear Mode
