Flakey Corporate Computers ??? Its the Baboo Software
Six weeks ago the Los Angeles Unified School District switched on a
$95-million computerized system for paying the district's 48,000
teachers and other employees. The soft sproing heard from Pacoima to
Palms was the sound of Southern California coming unglued.
Initially, someone in the superintendent's office told my colleague
Joel Rubin that only 1,000 or so of the district's employees had run
into snafus. The district quickly revised this number up to about
7,000 of the district's 77,000 employees. But by Thursday, A.J. Duffy,
the teachers union's charmingly cocky president, was putting the
number of paycheck casualties between 20,000 and 25,000.
Giselle Meneses, for example, recounted with a gradually intensifying
exasperation her story of what happened after bureaucracy and
technology mated to spawn the beast known universally as "The System."
On Feb. 5 - the first day of the new approach to payroll - the Loma
Vista elementary teacher peeked into her bank account and saw that The
System had automatically deposited her usual paycheck. "The next day I
got a paper check ....So I called the district to find out what was
going on."
Meneses says she was put on hold for more than an hour before finally
getting through to a human. She explained her problem. Then the line
went dead. After another hour on hold she got through again. She
explained her case. Click.
Meneses knew better than to do anything with the paper check. But she
had no idea that The System had slurped the direct deposit back out of
her account. Then her husband realized that they were inexplicably
broke.
More calls went unanswered, she says. She went ahead and deposited the
check and it cleared. She figured she was OK.
The next payday her check was for $40.69. A voice at district
headquarters asserted that The System had paid her twice the month
before. Meneses found herself locked into that circular sumo dance
known as: Prove that you're not lying about the alleged foul-up.
"I started calling everybody at the district," Meneses says.
Eventually she reached someone at the district. "Hold on, I'm going to
transfer you."
"No, no, no, no, no!" Meneses pleaded. The line went dead.
I'll spare you the additional indignities Meneses says she suffered.
Stress aside, she and her husband were able to weather the financial
mishaps. But many teachers live paycheck to paycheck, and I've heard
from several who failed to make payments to landlords or child-care
providers as a result of the foul-ups.
The System reportedly wrote one teacher a check for $11,000. Another
testified that The System paid her 20 cents total for the month. Many
say that The System refuses to pay for holidays. Others note that The
System charged them five times their usual union dues.
The district has cut emergency checks to help with the hardship. But
teachers often have to go to the downtown Beaudry Avenue headquarters
to pick them up, sometimes waiting many hours. Principals must assign
substitutes.
Flakey Corporate Computers ??? Its the Baboo Software
In article <1174432909.496359.46500@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.c om>, jgrove24@hotmail.com wrote:
> Six weeks ago the Los Angeles Unified School District switched on a
> $95-million computerized system for paying the district's 48,000
> teachers and other employees. The soft sproing heard from Pacoima to
> Palms was the sound of Southern California coming unglued.
And this has exactly what to do with Verizon Wireless, idiot? Are you
just hell-bent on dumping as much trash into the cellular newsgroups
as you possibly can?
Yes, it sucks. Yes, LAUSD screwed up royally. I'm in SoCal, it has
been in the news here. It still has nothing to do with Verizon Wireless.
And here I thought you were just an anti-Lucent troll. Guess I was
wrong.
**SJS (expecting another nasty attack from JGrove in response to this)
--
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Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED
It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
Flakey Corporate Computers ??? Its the Baboo Software
On Mar 23, 10:38 am, ArkGunSlin...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > Yet another clue to the impending dissolution of the Untied States of
> > > Denial.
> > > In 1970, on my way to a comp sci minor at USF in tampa, a class
> > > asssignment was to write the software to calculate the payroll, FICA,
> > > hours, and taxes for 12,000 employees. On an IBM 360 mainframe with a
> > > 5 meg hard drive and 64k of RAM. Fortunately, I could use fortran. If
> > > I hadda use COBOL, I'd stil be debugging.
>
> > > Its not rocket science. the kind of thing the LA school district
> > > wanted done has been done for decades. Note, the task is not the
> > > manipulation of graphic images, just digits. Which is why its duck
> > > soup with a computer that had only 64*k*, not meg, much less gigs of
> > > memory. The whole thing for LA couldda been done on a 486 running dos
> > > and LOTUS 123, and had it been done that way, it would've worked.
>
> > The vendor of the payroll software is not mentioned, I suspect its an
> > off the self package from one of the biggies, IBM, Oracle, etc.. But
> > don't exclude this being hacked together in-house by the LASD. Its
> > 2007, so you'd expect payroll systems to be stable.
>
> It would be interesting to know the full story behind who wrote the
> code for this system.
> The information should be available since this is a goverment project
> I assuming there
> would be required bidding and public notice of awarding of the bid.
Bingoooo !!
SAP America, Inc.
SAP Helps Los Angeles Unified School District Prepare for Growth
LOS ANGELES, Calif. - October 04, 2005 - SAP Public Services, Inc., a
subsidiary of SAP AG (NYSE: SAP), today announced that the Los Angeles
Unified School District (LAUSD) has selected mySAP™ ERP as a key
element of its initiatives to improve service delivery to schools and
enhance efficiency in the nation’s second-largest school district—
serving more than 710,000 students—by increasing the amount of
personal attention educators can give to each student. With the
support of SAP’s enterprise resource planning (ERP) solution, LAUSD
will offer 130,000 principals and teachers business tools to
dramatically reduce the amount of time spent on administrative tasks
so they can devote more time to student achievement.
* LAUSD will replace its 40-year-old legacy systems with mySAP
ERP, consolidating more than 60 different operating systems onto a
single platform. By streamlining its IT infrastructure, LAUSD will be
able to handle the high volume of business needs necessary for
managing an expanding infrastructure such as hiring new principals,
recruiting quality teachers and continuing professional development.
* Previously, financial data was housed in several different
systems, which often led to duplicate information and hindered LAUSD
officials from having a clear view of funds. By leveraging SAP’s
integrated applications for financials and purchasing, LAUSD will be
able to better track and manage detailed financial data in order to
maximize its investment of tax dollars and streamline procurement and
payment processes.
***** LAUSD’s former payroll system was complex and antiquated. With
mySAP ERP, LAUSD will be able to provide employees with real-time
access to payroll and benefits information and speed the time it takes
to process checks. The new system will also have the scalability to
accommodate more employee records as LAUSD hires additional teachers.
Using the software’s integrated human resources applications, LAUSD
will be able to identify teachers and principals most qualified for
job openings and increase recruitment
efficiency.************************
“Quality education demands facilities and academic programs that meet
the educational needs of each child,” said Anne Valenzuela-Smith,
executive administrator, Los Angeles Unified School District. “With
mySAP ERP, we gain tools to better manage information and
administrative activities, which will free up our educators to apply
their time and skills to the classroom, where they are needed most.”
Haaaaaa !!
Yup, like spending time driving downtown to get a survival paycheck
and explaining bounced checks to creditors.
Flakey Corporate Computers ??? Its the Baboo Software
On Mar 24, 3:51 pm, jgrov...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > > > Yet another clue to the impending dissolution of the Untied States of
> > > > Denial.
> > > > In 1970, on my way to a comp sci minor at USF in tampa, a class
> > > > asssignment was to write the software to calculate the payroll, FICA,
> > > > hours, and taxes for 12,000 employees. On an IBM 360 mainframe witha
> > > > 5 meg hard drive and 64k of RAM. Fortunately, I could use fortran. If
> > > > I hadda use COBOL, I'd stil be debugging.
>
> > > > Its not rocket science. the kind of thing the LA school district
> > > > wanted done has been done for decades. Note, the task is not the
> > > > manipulation of graphic images, just digits. Which is why its duck
> > > > soup with a computer that had only 64*k*, not meg, much less gigs of
> > > > memory. The whole thing for LA couldda been done on a 486 running dos
> > > > and LOTUS 123, and had it been done that way, it would've worked.
>
> > > The vendor of the payroll software is not mentioned, I suspect its an
> > > off the self package from one of the biggies, IBM, Oracle, etc.. But
> > > don't exclude this being hacked together in-house by the LASD. Its
> > > 2007, so you'd expect payroll systems to be stable.
>
> > It would be interesting to know the full story behind who wrote the
> > code for this system.
> > The information should be available since this is a goverment project
> > I assuming there
> > would be required bidding and public notice of awarding of the bid.
>
> Bingoooo !!
>
> SAP America, Inc.
>
> SAP Helps Los Angeles Unified School District Prepare for Growth
>
> LOS ANGELES, Calif. - October 04, 2005 - SAP Public Services, Inc., a
> subsidiary of SAP AG (NYSE: SAP), today announced that the Los Angeles
> Unified School District (LAUSD) has selected mySAP™ ERP as a key
> element of its initiatives to improve service delivery to schools and
> enhance efficiency in the nation’s second-largest school district—
> serving more than 710,000 students—by increasing the amount of
> personal attention educators can give to each student. With the
> support of SAP’s enterprise resource planning (ERP) solution, LAUSD
> will offer 130,000 principals and teachers business tools to
> dramatically reduce the amount of time spent on administrative tasks
> so they can devote more time to student achievement.
>
> * LAUSD will replace its 40-year-old legacy systems with mySAP
> ERP, consolidating more than 60 different operating systems onto a
> single platform. By streamlining its IT infrastructure, LAUSD will be
> able to handle the high volume of business needs necessary for
> managing an expanding infrastructure such as hiring new principals,
> recruiting quality teachers and continuing professional development.
> ***** LAUSD’s former payroll system was complex and antiquated. With
> mySAP ERP, LAUSD will be able to provide employees with real-time
> access to payroll and benefits information and speed the time it takes
> to process checks. The new system will also have the scalability to
> accommodate more employee records as LAUSD hires additional teachers.
> Using the software’s integrated human resources applications, LAUSD
> will be able to identify teachers and principals most qualified for
> job openings and increase recruitment
> efficiency.************************
>
> “Quality education demands facilities and academic programs that meet
> the educational needs of each child,” said Anne Valenzuela-Smith,
> executive administrator, Los Angeles Unified School District. “With
> mySAP ERP, we gain tools to better manage information and
> administrative activities, which will free up our educators to apply
> their time and skills to the classroom, where they are needed most.”
> Haaaaaa !!
>
> Yup, like spending time driving downtown to get a survival paycheck
> and explaining bounced checks to creditors.
And it gets better, Heir Henning is not Happy !
January 30, 2006 (IDG News Service) -- Escalating personnel costs in
India -- one of the world's largest markets for offshore software
development services -- have prompted business software vendor SAP AG
to begin looking elsewhere for low-cost, skilled programmers.
"India is slowly getting expensive," SAP CEO Henning Kagermann said in
an interview today in the German edition of the Financial Times. "We
have decided to hire a certain number there and then start looking at
other locations."
SAP spokesman Frank Hartman confirmed the statements.
Kagermann pointed to India's relatively high staff turnover, which is
fueling personnel costs, Hartman said. "Personnel costs are a key
factor in the software industry."
Staff turnover in India has increased as SAP competes against other IT
powerhouses such as IBM and Microsoft Corp., as well as local Indian
IT companies such as Infosys Technologies Ltd. and Wipro Ltd., for
qualified staff.
SAP is likely to expand in China and Eastern Europe, according to
Kagermann. The reason the German vendor has only limited software
development in China is largely because of the country's lack of
protection for intellectual property rights, he said. "But that isn't
going to prevent us from doing more in China," he added.
Today, about 1,000 people work for SAP in China, mostly in sales and
marketing, Kagermann said.
Eastern Europe is another area where the German CEO sees opportunities
for offshore software development. Turnover is low, he said, and the
costs aren't too high.
Flakey Corporate Computers ??? Its the Baboo Software
On Mar 24, 4:05 pm, jgrov...@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Mar 24, 3:51 pm, jgrov...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> > > > > Yet another clue to the impending dissolution of the Untied States of
> > > > > Denial.
> > > > > In 1970, on my way to a comp sci minor at USF in tampa, a class
> > > > > asssignment was to write the software to calculate the payroll, FICA,
> > > > > hours, and taxes for 12,000 employees. On an IBM 360 mainframe with a
> > > > > 5 meg hard drive and 64k of RAM. Fortunately, I could use fortran.. If
> > > > > I hadda use COBOL, I'd stil be debugging.
>
> > > > > Its not rocket science. the kind of thing the LA school district
> > > > > wanted done has been done for decades. Note, the task is not the
> > > > > manipulation of graphic images, just digits. Which is why its duck
> > > > > soup with a computer that had only 64*k*, not meg, much less gigsof
> > > > > memory. The whole thing for LA couldda been done on a 486 runningdos
> > > > > and LOTUS 123, and had it been done that way, it would've worked.
>
> > > > The vendor of the payroll software is not mentioned, I suspect its an
> > > > off the self package from one of the biggies, IBM, Oracle, etc.. But
> > > > don't exclude this being hacked together in-house by the LASD. Its
> > > > 2007, so you'd expect payroll systems to be stable.
>
> > > It would be interesting to know the full story behind who wrote the
> > > code for this system.
> > > The information should be available since this is a goverment project
> > > I assuming there
> > > would be required bidding and public notice of awarding of the bid.
>
> > Bingoooo !!
>
> > SAP America, Inc.
>
> > SAP Helps Los Angeles Unified School District Prepare for Growth
>
> > LOS ANGELES, Calif. - October 04, 2005 - SAP Public Services, Inc., a
> > subsidiary of SAP AG (NYSE: SAP), today announced that the Los Angeles
> > Unified School District (LAUSD) has selected mySAP™ ERP as a key
> > element of its initiatives to improve service delivery to schools and
> > enhance efficiency in the nation’s second-largest school district—
> > serving more than 710,000 students—by increasing the amount of
> > personal attention educators can give to each student. With the
> > support of SAP’s enterprise resource planning (ERP) solution, LAUSD
> > will offer 130,000 principals and teachers business tools to
> > dramatically reduce the amount of time spent on administrative tasks
> > so they can devote more time to student achievement.
>
> > * LAUSD will replace its 40-year-old legacy systems with mySAP
> > ERP, consolidating more than 60 different operating systems onto a
> > single platform. By streamlining its IT infrastructure, LAUSD will be
> > able to handle the high volume of business needs necessary for
> > managing an expanding infrastructure such as hiring new principals,
> > recruiting quality teachers and continuing professional development.
> > ***** LAUSD’s former payroll system was complex and antiquated.With
> > mySAP ERP, LAUSD will be able to provide employees with real-time
> > access to payroll and benefits information and speed the time it takes
> > to process checks. The new system will also have the scalability to
> > accommodate more employee records as LAUSD hires additional teachers.
> > Using the software’s integrated human resources applications, LAUSD
> > will be able to identify teachers and principals most qualified for
> > job openings and increase recruitment
> > efficiency.************************
>
> > “Quality education demands facilities and academic programs that meet
> > the educational needs of each child,” said Anne Valenzuela-Smith,
> > executive administrator, Los Angeles Unified School District. “With
> > mySAP ERP, we gain tools to better manage information and
> > administrative activities, which will free up our educators to apply
> > their time and skills to the classroom, where they are needed most.”
> > Haaaaaa !!
>
> > Yup, like spending time driving downtown to get a survival paycheck
> > and explaining bounced checks to creditors.
>
> And it gets better, Heir Henning is not Happy !
>
> January 30, 2006 (IDG News Service) -- Escalating personnel costs in
> India -- one of the world's largest markets for offshore software
> development services -- have prompted business software vendor SAP AG
> to begin looking elsewhere for low-cost, skilled programmers.
> "India is slowly getting expensive," SAP CEO Henning Kagermann said in
> an interview today in the German edition of the Financial Times. "We
> have decided to hire a certain number there and then start looking at
> other locations."
> SAP spokesman Frank Hartman confirmed the statements.
> Kagermann pointed to India's relatively high staff turnover, which is
> fueling personnel costs, Hartman said. "Personnel costs are a key
> factor in the software industry."
> Staff turnover in India has increased as SAP competes against other IT
> powerhouses such as IBM and Microsoft Corp., as well as local Indian
> IT companies such as Infosys Technologies Ltd. and Wipro Ltd., for
> qualified staff.
> SAP is likely to expand in China and Eastern Europe, according to
> Kagermann. The reason the German vendor has only limited software
> development in China is largely because of the country's lack of
> protection for intellectual property rights, he said. "But that isn't
> going to prevent us from doing more in China," he added.
> Today, about 1,000 people work for SAP in China, mostly in sales and
> marketing, Kagermann said.
> Eastern Europe is another area where the German CEO sees opportunities
> for offshore software development. Turnover is low, he said, and the
> costs aren't too high.
The Key Word here is SAP, as in anyone buying from them is a Sap !!
Flakey Corporate Computers ??? Its the Baboo Software
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