Breaking Rumor: Apple iPhone goes enterprise on Jan. 21

Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
news:kJonj.2066$Zf6.1405@fe099.usenetserver.com:

> The N8xx series is probably not a wild success- most likely it's
> allowed to stick around as long as it doesn't lose money in hopes that
> if the portable web-tablet platform ever takes off, Nokia will be in
> good position to exploit it.
>

Well, if it were a SELLphone, I would have never even considered buying it
at any price....

In article <Xns9A337D7E46651noonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> > Since Nokia is the worldwide leader in mobile phones, why haven't they
> > just slapped an unlocked GSM phone module into the N800 and made an
> > "N801"? Even if phone use required a wired or bluetooth headset, it
> > would complete the unit's data connectivity options list, and they
> > could market it against the iPhone and HTC Advantage (HTC's large
> > form-factor hi-res Windows Mobile Tablet phone.)
> >
> >
>
>
> Because the carriers wouldn't sell it unless they could prevent it from
> working and hobble it all up...same as iPhones, smartphones, dumbphones and
> everything else they sell....

Including what they sold to you, which you bought willingly, and which
you use willingly?

Do you ever get tired of telling the world that you're a horse's ass?

In article <Xns9A338A44563FBnoonehomecom@208.49.80.253>,
larry <noone@home.com> wrote:

> Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
> news:kJonj.2066$Zf6.1405@fe099.usenetserver.com:
>
> > The N8xx series is probably not a wild success- most likely it's
> > allowed to stick around as long as it doesn't lose money in hopes that
> > if the portable web-tablet platform ever takes off, Nokia will be in
> > good position to exploit it.
> >
>
> Well, if it were a SELLphone, I would have never even considered buying it
> at any price....

Unlike the "SELLphone" that you did buy, right?

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On 2008-01-28, larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
> LoSebal <lsebal@well.com> wrote in news:lsebal-25BDB9.23002527012008@mpls-
> nnrp-05.inet.qwest.net:
>
>> http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/
>
> Unlimited Managed Systems edition: $499/administrator (MB423Z/A)

VNC might be a better bet.


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At 28 Jan 2008 18:32:19 +0000 larry wrote:

> Well, if it were a SELLphone, I would have never even considered
> buying it at any price....

Well, I would've- so Nokia'd broken even on us!

Again, you shouldn't paint Nokia and GSM with the same brush you paint
Verizon and Alltel with. Many high-end Nokia phones are not "hobbled" in
any way, and even run real VoIP clients built-in to their OS that work over
WiFi or 3G. Are those "SELLphones" too?

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Todd Allcock posted:
>> Why run 2 mailboxes and try to figure out where that email went,
> That's why the Good Lord gaves us IMAP. You can run 50 e-mail clients on
> 50 different devices and they all have up to date identical inboxes, sent
> items and saved folders, etc.

I may be many things, but I don't aspire to deityhood (and it was I who
gave the world IMAP...).

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, Todd Allcock posted:
> Since Nokia is the worldwide leader in mobile phones, why haven't they just
> slapped an unlocked GSM phone module into the N800 and made an "N801"?

They wouldn't do it with the N800. It's not the right form factor for a
phone. They might do something like that with N810.

But I don't pretend to understand Nokia's marketing strategy for this
series. My impression is that N8x0 is a skunkworks effort that the rest
of Nokia doesn't really know what to do about.

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

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On 2008-01-29, Mark Crispin <mrc@Washington.EDU> wrote:

> I may be many things, but I don't aspire to deityhood (and it was I who
> gave the world IMAP...).

OT: I'd consider you a deity if you could convince a bunch of big email client
vendors like M$ to fix their IMAP client implementations. :)


> -- Mark --
>
> http://panda.com/mrc
> Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
> Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.


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On Sun, 27 Jan 2008, LoSebal posted:
>>> Does MAC OSX support remote desktop access?? I've never tried it to a
>>> MAC.
>> AFAIK, Mac has an rdesktop client but not a server.
> you might want to let apple know http://www.apple.com/remotedesktop/

I did say AFAIK.

I glanced through the specifications, and it seems to imply that this
expensive ($499) product is limited to Mac OS and VNC, and is not "remote
desktop" in the context that he asked.

For Windows remote desktop (which is part of every XP and Vista machine),
there are free clients for Windows, Mac OS, and N800.

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008, larry posted:
> Not sure why you're using a browser to play music.

I'm referring to the default media player.

> Here, it's a tossup
> between Canola 2, which was just upgraded and is VERY iPhoney acting,
> and Kagu, which supports A2DP to my stereo BT headphones and scrobbling.

Neither Canola nor Kagu handle files with CJK characters.

> mplayer, the smallest and lightest weight interface plays the most movie
> formats, of all of them.

Yes, but it staggers too often. The easiest workaround is to use the free
converter on Windows to convert it to AVI format first.

> ATSC digital television is NEVER going to work in a moving vehicle.

The same problem exists for other digital TV systems as well. In Japan,
1seg (which unlike ATSC is specially designed for mobile use) works fine
when still, but as soon as the vehicle goes more than about 15 km/h it
starts dropping out (this is first-hand experience!).

So, don't believe the crackpots who claim that it's all because of ATSC
and other digital TV systems work fine. It's a general problem with
digital reception, but it will be ironed out in time. The newer 1seg
tuners work MUCH better than the older ones.

-- Mark --

http://panda.com/mrc
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what to eat for lunch.
Liberty is a well-armed sheep contesting the vote.