Xenu <Xenu@mars.gov> wrote in news:kjfm549sb44cfi4vk45brfsatne2po0uoi@
4ax.com:
> I have been on unlimited for several years and will be quite pissed if
> that gets changed. Hell, I can blow through 5G worth of downloads in
> one day.
>
Every Alltel customer hopes to be grandfathered as the dispicable Verizon
bastards take over our company. I'll be amazed if they let it run like
it is now....phones with no restrictions, no featured
disabled....internet service without blocked ports and unlimited data,
especially over Bluetooth DUN to tethered devices Verizon customers are
not allowed to use....Unrestricted access to your own pictures, media,
memory cards without having to hack past the company's tampering trying
to force you to email your own pictures to you and buy their shitty
ringtones and Vcast.
Alltel has assured us our features and my regional sellphone plan is safe
until the end of the contract, but they balked when I tried to pull an
end run and have my contract, a real contract, extended out 10 years
BEFORE the dispicable Verizon monster takes over the accounts to screw it
all up....locking me into what I want for 10 more years.
.....but, at least, I tried....(c;
Just for fun, let's look EXACTLY at what it says, TODAY:
"DATA PLANS AND FEATURES
Data Plans and Features (such as NationalAccess, BroadbandAccess,
GlobalAccess, Push to Talk, and certain VZEmail services) may ONLY be
used with wireless devices for the following purposes: (i) Internet
browsing; (ii) email; and (iii) intranet access (including access to
corporate intranets, email, and individual productivity applications like
customer relationship management, sales force, and field service
automation). The Data Plans and Features MAY NOT be used for any other
purpose. Examples of prohibited uses include, without limitation, the
following: (i) continuous uploading, downloading or streaming of audio or
video programming or games; (ii) server devices or host computer
applications, including, but not limited to, Web camera posts or
broadcasts, automatic data feeds, automated machine-to-machine
connections or peer-to-peer (P2P) file sharing; or (iii) as a substitute
or backup for private lines or dedicated data connections. This means, by
way of example only, that checking email, surfing the Internet,
downloading legally acquired songs, and/or visiting corporate intranets
is permitted, but downloading movies using P2P file sharing services
and/or redirecting television signals for viewing on laptops is
prohibited. A person engaged in prohibited uses, continuously for one
hour, could typically use 100 to 200 MBs, or, if engaged in prohibited
uses for 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, could use more than 5 GBs in a
month."
[So, nothing has changed. You may ONLY use data for EMAIL or WEBPAGES or
CONNECTION TO THE COMPANY INTRANET! Any other use is SPECIFICALLY
forbidden: "The Data Plans and Features MAY NOT be used for any other
purpose." If you do anything else with them, you're in violation of the
AUP and may be terminated for cause at their whim if caught. Curiously,
they've added "downloading legally acquired songs" AFTER forbidding it!
I suppose this was done without proper proofreading to open a hole so you
could BUY (Remember this IS a SELLphone) music from Verizon or iTunes,
etc. We wouldn't want to hold up someone's PROFITS, especially from
companies big enough, like Apple, to sue Verizon, right?]
Back to what Verizon says:
"For individual use only and not for resale. We reserve the right to
protect our network from harm, which may impact legitimate data flows. We
reserve the right to limit throughput or amount of data transferred, and
to deny or terminate service, without notice, to anyone we believe is
using an Data Plan or Feature in any manner prohibited above or whose
usage adversely impacts our network or service levels. Anyone using more
than 5 GB per line in a given month is presumed to be using the service
in a manner prohibited above, and we reserve the right to immediately
terminate the service of any such person without notice. We also reserve
the right to terminate service upon expiration of Customer Agreement
term."
[SO, if some company hack notices you using more than 5GB/month, he can
terminate your service without notifying you. It simply stops. You are
presumed guilty, even if you've just been watching the spam movies every
commercial webpage is completely saturated with eating up your 5GB/month
LIMIT. "anyone we believe is..." means they don't have to prove you were
doing something against this AUP, so you can be cut off just because some
hack doesn't like you. You "are presumed" to be guilty. Isn't that the
new American way?]
Ok, now Verizon says further:
"Data sessions automatically terminate after 24 hours of activity. Data
session is inactive when no data is being transferred. Data session may
seem inactive while data is actively being transferred to device, or may
seem active when it is actually cached and not transferring data. You
MUST press or click END or DISCONNECT button to ensure that session
disconnects and charges cease. Thirdparty applications may automatically
reinitiate data sessions without you pressing or clicking SEND or CONNECT
button. For the Palm® TreoTM 650, the only way to disconnect your data
session is to press the home key until you see “All” or “System,” then
select the “Prefs” icon, then select “Network” from the drop-down list,
and then “Disconnect.” You may be able to send or receive voice calls
when your data session is inactive. When this occurs, charges apply
simultaneously for voice calls in accordance with your Calling Plan. You
are responsible for maintaining virus protection when accessing service."
[Simple translation - IT'S ALL YOUR FAULT if you go over 5GB and get your
sorry ass cut off. Treos are constantly checking email, checking for
software upgrades, all eating up your 5GB limit.]
Then, Verizon goes on to say:
"PDA/smartphone and BlackBerry® Plans: These VZEmail plans cannot be
used: (1) for access to the Internet, intranets, or other data networks
except as the device’s native applications and capabilities permit,
unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect; or (2) for any
applications that tether your device to laptops or personal computers
other than for use of the Wireless Sync or the BlackBerry solution,
unless you subscribe to BroadbandAccess Connect."
[Translation - We've turned off all tethering unless you buy an aircard
plan for $60/month for ONLY 5GB/mo. No more cheap tethering plans from
your smartphone to your laptop.
This is what makes me think we Alltel customers will very soon be SCREWED
out of our tethered unlimited data we enjoy at the moment. If you have a
smartphone, Alltel charges $10/mo for tethered data! Ordinary phones
capable of BT tethering are charged $25/mo for unlimited tethered data.
This is forbidden on Verizon to Verizon customers. Why should they go on
allowing it for the acquired Alltel customers?]
Then, more Verizon funny business for blackberries:
"PDA/smartphone and BlackBerry Megabyte Features: Megabyte allowance and
charges for kilobytes over the monthly allowance apply to 1xRTT and EV-DO
data sessions, which are rounded to next full kilobyte at end of each
billing cycle. Only total of kilobytes transmitted above allowance each
billing cycle may appear on bill. You are responsible for all charges,
including all data sent and received and “overhead” whether or not you or
your recipients actually receive the data. Overhead is all data that is
in addition to user-transmitted data, such as control, operational and
routing instructions, error-checking characters as well as
retransmissions of user-data messages that are received in error. Any
unused portion of the megabyte allowance is lost.
Wireless Sync: Compatible wireless device required. The monthly allowance
applies only to 1xRTT and EV-DO data transmissions, not to voice or other
(Quick 2 Net or dial-up) data transmissions. When traveling outside of
the National Enhanced Services Rate and Coverage Area, you may be charged
at the “other data” rate for data calls. Customers with devices that
support Quick 2 Net service will be billed minutes of use or “other data”
rate according to their Calling Plan. In order to use Wireless Sync, your
PC Monitor or Wireless Sync Enterprise Server must be on and in a
condition to receive your corporate email. Wireless Sync software updates
will be sent to your device and will be charged as a data call."
[You have to pay us for every byte, even if you never receive it. We can
constantly bombard your phone with data and charge you like hell for it
and you have to pay for it....OR ELSE!]
Then, they go on screwing Blackberry customers:
"The BlackBerry Solution from Verizon Wireless: The wireless data
capability of the BlackBerry device functions only within the National
Enhanced Services Rate and Coverage Area. Verizon Wireless NationalAccess
service is not available with the BlackBerry solution. With the
BlackBerry solution, the first 2 kilobytes (KB) of each email are
initially received on the BlackBerry device and you can simply request to
receive additional 2KB increments. Some email attachments (Microsoft®
Office Word, Excel®, PowerPoint®, Corel® WordPerfect®, Adobe® PDF, and
ASCII text) are delivered to the BlackBerry device when requested by the
end user. ZIP file browsing is available with BlackBerry Device Software
v3.7. With BlackBerry Device Software v4.0, an HTML Internet browser has
been added to the service in addition to full wireless PIM (Calendar,
Contacts, Notes&Tasks) synchronization when using the BlackBerry device
with a BlackBerry Enterprise Server.TM Graphics in emails and attachments
are not delivered to the BlackBerry device. When the BlackBerry device
reaches its memory storage capacity, email stored on the device will
automatically be deleted from it, starting with the oldest emails first.
BlackBerry Desktop Software using BlackBerry Desktop Redirector only
supports Microsoft Exchange environments. Up to ten POP3/IMAP and ISP
email accounts are supported through use of the BlackBerry Internet
Service.TM
[Evidently, many Blackberry features cannot be simply shut down at the
carrier's whim, rendering Blackberrys as useless as other phones Verizon
sells all hobbled up. So, we'll charge them by the KB the old fashioned
way.]
And, of course, all this means nothing because we can screw you at any
time:
"Verizon Wireless Calling Plans, Rate and Coverage Areas, rates,
agreement provisions, business practices, procedures and policies are
subject to change as specified in the Customer Agreement."
------------------------But wait, there's more!---------------------
After reading and digesting what the lawyers wrote you CAN do, with the
threat of being cut off.....on one place....there's CONFLICTING
INFORMATION in other places!
http://b2b.vzw.com/productsservices/...andaccessconne
ct.html
It says:
"BroadbandAccess Connect Features
(NationalAccess service included)
Required Equipment
With a BroadbandAccess Connect-capable smartphone or BlackBerry device
$15
With Nationwide Email or Unlimited Data Feature added to an eligible
calling plan
$30
With unlimited VZEmail plan or Web and Email for BlackBerry plan or
feature
Monthly Allowance
5 GB (5,120 MB)
Per MB Rate After
Allowance
$0.49
-----or-------
With a BroadbandAccess Connect-capable handset
Monthly Access Fee
$59.99
Monthly Allowance
5 GB (5,120 MB)
Per MB Rate After
Allowance
$0.49"
[Which DIRECTLY contradicts the threats of being cut off if you go over
5GB/month!
But, again, all this is tied up, very neatly, to keep the BUSINESS
customers from being cut off at 5GB/month with yet another legal
document:
http://b2b.vzw.com/broadband/bba_terms.html
I suppose about the 2nd BUSINESS client they cut off at 5GB, that client,
someone like IBM or Micro$oft, told them they'd cancel all 25,826
Sellphones if Verizon didn't turn the damned data service back on in the
next 60 seconds.....so this was unacceptable to the company bean
counters.
So, you CAN go over 5GB IF you're willing to pay them 50 cents/megabyte,
which is if my high school math serves me well, $500/Gigabyte....a figure
I find kind of excessive and punative, don't you?
If I have to go from $25 for unlimited data on Alltel to $60 for 5GB on
Verizon's overpriced nonsense, you can bet your ass I'll be off Verizon
AGAIN within the hour.
Permitted uses with Verizon data plans
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