Permitted uses with Verizon data plans

I just noticed that Verizon has changed their web site wording regarding
permitted uses.

Note that PERMITTED uses now include "uploading, downloading and
streaming of audio, video and games; and ... Voice over Internet
Protocol (VoIP)."

There is no longer an prohibition on sharing the data conection.

<http://www.verizonwireless.com/b2c/store/controller?item=planFirst&action=viewPlanList&sort Option=priceSort&typeId=5&subTypeId=13&catId=409>
or
http://tinyurl.com/y6dx66

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Dave

Dave Rudisill wrote:
> I just noticed that Verizon has changed their web site wording regarding
> permitted uses.
>
> Note that PERMITTED uses now include "uploading, downloading and
> streaming of audio, video and games; and ... Voice over Internet
> Protocol (VoIP)."
>
> There is no longer an prohibition on sharing the data conection.

I ponder if they see it as a new revenue stream for data overages.

Dave Rudisill <denali@alaska.net> wrote in
news:gpn2t31hqs1p6loq4h6upomg5u8i515uru@4ax.com:

> Note that PERMITTED uses now include "uploading, downloading and
> streaming of audio, video and games; and ... Voice over Internet
> Protocol (VoIP)."

At least as compared to a year ago when I started my data plan, they also
go in to *MUCH* more detail on what is considered "unacceptable".

I was curious as to what they had to say now about older plans, like mine,
that specifically state "unlimited" or otherwise didn't clearly establish a
limit. For that, they now include this little ditty:

"If your usage on a Data Plan or Feature that does not include a specific
monthly Megabyte allowance or that is not billed on a pay–as–you–use basis
exceeds 5 Gigabytes per account line during any billing period, we reserve
the right to reduce throughput speed to a maximum of approximately 200
Kilobits per second for up to thirty days."

On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:42:50 GMT, DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote:

>Dave Rudisill wrote:
>> I just noticed that Verizon has changed their web site wording regarding
>> permitted uses.
>>
>> Note that PERMITTED uses now include "uploading, downloading and
>> streaming of audio, video and games; and ... Voice over Internet
>> Protocol (VoIP)."
>>
>> There is no longer an prohibition on sharing the data conection.
>
>I ponder if they see it as a new revenue stream for data overages.

I signed up awhile back for the "unlimited" broadband plan for $59 a
month. Am I now limited to 5G's?

Roughrider50 wrote:
> I signed up awhile back for the "unlimited" broadband plan for $59 a
> month. Am I now limited to 5G's?

Only if you don't bother to complain to your state attorney general.

On 2008-03-07, David <spammers@kissmyass.com> wrote:
> Dave Rudisill <denali@alaska.net> wrote in
> news:gpn2t31hqs1p6loq4h6upomg5u8i515uru@4ax.com:
>
>> Note that PERMITTED uses now include "uploading, downloading and
>> streaming of audio, video and games; and ... Voice over Internet
>> Protocol (VoIP)."
>
> At least as compared to a year ago when I started my data plan, they also
> go in to *MUCH* more detail on what is considered "unacceptable".
>
> I was curious as to what they had to say now about older plans, like mine,
> that specifically state "unlimited" or otherwise didn't clearly establish a
> limit. For that, they now include this little ditty:
>
> "If your usage on a Data Plan or Feature that does not include a specific
> monthly Megabyte allowance or that is not billed on a pay–as–you–use basis
> exceeds 5 Gigabytes per account line during any billing period, we reserve
> the right to reduce throughput speed to a maximum of approximately 200
> Kilobits per second for up to thirty days."

In general the Customer Agreement which applies to you is the one you
signed (I always save a copy) rather than the most current one. Verizon
can't change the terms of your Customer Agreement unless they inform you
and give you a chance to decline. If you signed the old "Unlimited"
agreement that's what applies to you.

Note that as part of the settlement of that deceptive marketing investigation
I think Verizon agreed to remove the limitations in the Customer Agreement
from existing customers who'd signed up for an "Unlimited" plan, and since
they haven't done anything to change the terms for older customers my guess
is that this is still the case and your "Unlimited" service is, in fact,
unlimited. I have the same plan and I ran well past 5 GB one month without
any consequences.

You'll lose it if you buy new discounted equipment or do something else
which requires a new agreement, but for now my guess is that you don't have
to worry about the usage restrictions current customers sign up for.

Dennis Ferguson

Roughrider50 wrote:
> On Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:42:50 GMT, DTC <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave Rudisill wrote:
>>> I just noticed that Verizon has changed their web site wording
>>> regarding permitted uses.
>>>
>>> Note that PERMITTED uses now include "uploading, downloading and
>>> streaming of audio, video and games; and ... Voice over Internet
>>> Protocol (VoIP)."
>>>
>>> There is no longer an prohibition on sharing the data conection.
>>
>> I ponder if they see it as a new revenue stream for data overages.
>
> I signed up awhile back for the "unlimited" broadband plan for $59 a
> month. Am I now limited to 5G's?

If it had no spelled out limitations in the signed contract, I'd be
knocking on the doors of the consumer affairs department in my state
if that happened to me!!

How many of you can put your hands on the copy of your wtitten
contract and read exactly what it says? That what counts - what's in
that signed contract.

Tom J
btw - worked for me

Tom J wrote:
> How many of you can put your hands on the copy of your wtitten
> contract and read exactly what it says? That what counts - what's in
> that signed contract.

I scan mine.

Just cancel your service and get a Sprint Data Plan that is truely unlimted
for the same price. It is that simple.

"DTC" <me@nothingtoseehere.zzx> wrote in message
news:gLjAj.19275$R84.9343@newssvr25.news.prodigy.n et...
> Roughrider50 wrote:
>> I signed up awhile back for the "unlimited" broadband plan for $59 a
>> month. Am I now limited to 5G's?
>
> Only if you don't bother to complain to your state attorney general.

Dave Rudisill <denali@alaska.net> wrote in
news:gpn2t31hqs1p6loq4h6upomg5u8i515uru@4ax.com:

> There is no longer an prohibition on sharing the data conection.
>
>

The P2P file sharing prohibition is still there...

If I were charging:

Monthly Allowance Monthly Access Per MB Rate
After Allowance Plan Includes
5 GB
$59.99 $0.49 Data access for Internet browsing, email, or
Intranet access
50 MB
$39.99 $0.99


from 49c to 99c per MEGAbyte over what you pay an exhorbitant amount for in
the first place...really restricted service...I'd certainly want you to
stream and download huge files and use Skype 24/7, too!

They'll make lots more money off Skype's 110Kbps on your phone calls than
they will off your Sellphone direct calls at these awful rates!

110kbps = 13.75KB/sec x 60 = .825MB/min x .49 = 40.4c/minute after you use
up your 5000MB for $60 (1.2c/MB). .825MB/min x .012 = about a
penny/minute, 60c/hour until you exceed the 5GB....then it gets EXPENSIVE!

See why they took off those restrictions? It's a SELLphone, SELLing
bandwidth per megabyte!

Alltel.....$25/mo for unlimited data tethered via BT or USB is a
bargain....